how do I prevent somebody from stealing my 16M

the fob is built into the key. its one unit...so..

 

Should not be a problem.
On 430, if you do a relearn of the keys, you have to present all the keys. The ones which are not used during this relearn will be ignored.
So, buy another key, make a relearn of your 2 keys and you are safe. The old one cannot command your care anymore.

 

That's good news for the OP Eric!

Haven't specifically looked into the 430 upgrades that Bosch did myself.

Hows the car these days? Edit: Just checked, you've upgraded to a 458?!?! When?

-T

 

indeed a good news, how do I do the relearn ? is it a combination of operations or an SD3 command?

 

SD3, of course, can do it.
I know there is another way to put the ECU in relearn mode but I can't remember if it is by pressing the key several times (15-20) or by switching on/off several times the car with the key.
Once in relearn mode, you will have to press in turn all the keys you want to pair with the car. Other keys, even the old one, will be ignored.

 

does the dealer sell just one key?

 

Hi Trev,
I sold my 360 last summer and got the 458 end of October. Not too much km behind the wheel, yet. But ... what a beast!! I would have loved to get it in blue TdF but they are so rare in this color. Red/black, carbon sport seats, carbon wheel with LEDs, carbon driver zone, diamond wheels, ... is OK also

 

Yes, it does.

 

Wait....Did you say a Teenage owned a 16M? Holy Cow!!!

 

yes, daddy's gift, of course. The guy's liability, each day passed by, chances increase for the car to be crashed. He DUI almost daily, not with the 16m necessarily though.

 

A guy I knew in the H A just wired a stick of dynamite under his seat.

 

reason why i was worried is that his sphere of presence kinda overlap with mine

its no accident one day he'll see my car parked somewhere, restaurants, squares, etc.

 

Very nice. Enjoy in rude health sir!

-T

 

You're buying a Ferrari previously owned by a teenager?

 

Eric- He does not even need to buy a new key. He can take it to the dealer, who can then wipe the alarm memory of the two keys. After that, they program the alarm to accept the one key he has. Should not take more than 15 minutes.

Buying a new key as a back-up is still probably a good idea, but at a cost of $800 or so.

 

when that's the only 16m in the whole country for sale in the last 7 years and no used car is allowed to be imported, do I really have a choice?

 

You've got this owner worried. Could you please elaborate on this statement? I have never heard about this being possible on Ferraris. On other makes, yes, but not on Ferrraris.

 

Not in a public forum. The only advice I can give is what I've already stated and that's to seriously consider relocating your OBD-II connector to a non standard location.

 

There's enough stress that comes with owning a Ferrari without worrying about the previous owner stealing it back. If insurance doesn't bring you piece of mind then maybe you shoould consider a different car. Ferraris are very rewarding - but less so with this kind of worry.

 

We already told him what the solution is. Take it to the dealer and have the other fob data deleted. Not rocket science.

 

Agreed. Buy a new key so that you have a spare, and when the dealer pairs it to the ECU, only keys that are present at that time can be paired. Any previous, lost, or otherwise unavailable keys are deleted from memory and will no longer work.

 

problem solved.

 

I understand your reluctance, but I did not ask for a recipe, I just wanted to know if this type of Ferrari theft has been confirmed, even anecdotally. I haven't found any evidence that this has actually ocurred.

BTW, there are easier ways to surreptitiusly disable the OBD2 connector without having to physically relocate it. But at that point, it is just as easy to install a hidden kill switch.

 

In the US, the last theft of a Ferrari reported on NHTSA's site was a 512 TR in 1994. None reported since on their website.

 

Curious what country do you live in? The fact you are worried the previous owner may steal the car makes me wonder. Also if you are so worried maybe this is the wrong car for you.