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Running-in procedure, FF

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  1. seawise

    seawise Karting

    Feb 29, 2016
    96
    Sussex, UK
    Hello everyone,

    I take delivery of my new FF this weekend, super exciting. Whats the concensus of opinion regards 'running-in'. The dealer says there is no need, the engine they say is run in on the bench.

    I am a bit old fashioned perhaps, but surely it will need a bit of care over the first 1,000 miles or so ?

    Oliver
     
  2. Jordan68

    Jordan68 Formula Junior

    May 12, 2015
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    Dubai
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    Jordan W
    No my friend .... No need for that.... just take it and enjoy it to the max
     
  3. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

    Dec 8, 2004
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    I imagine sticking to the speed limit will give the car a suitably easy time !
     
  4. clockem

    clockem Formula 3

    May 18, 2009
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    Gary
    In the US, the manual for the F12 says 650 miles for break-in period. Likely the same for the FF as both are V-12's. The break in was not to go over 4000 rpm (from memory).

    Enjoy.
     
  5. Traveller

    Traveller F1 Veteran

    Apr 10, 2009
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    There are endless threads on this and different viewpoints. I have never run a modern car in, never. Yes, in the days of Daytonas and Boxers the materials required it, but there is a school of thought that today the engine actually benefits from full throttle at the earliest opportunity, especially as it will already have had some of that from the Factory.

    Go for it, and natural driving conditions in the States will limit you anyway.

    When I collect my tdf from the factory, there is no way I will run it in back to the UK I can assure you.
     
  6. seawise

    seawise Karting

    Feb 29, 2016
    96
    Sussex, UK
    Super, thanks for all the responses. I suspect it will be difficult to stretch the performance envelope here on the congested UK road network....still, nice place to sit whilst my life ebbs away stuck in London traffic.
     
  7. DaveMc

    DaveMc Formula Junior

    Nov 29, 2012
    410
    Palm Coast, Florida
    As long as internal combustion engines still use piston rings, these rings must be "seated" properly when new. Here is a good explanation...(link below) Bottom line? Take it easy for the first 500 miles or so.

    New Engine Break-in Procedure
     
  8. YellowF50

    YellowF50 Formula Junior

    Feb 15, 2007
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    K B
    As your in the UK it is law ( :D ) that you must collect your car and drive upto Scotland and complete the north500 as quick as you possibly can. Clockwise seems to be the preferred direction for scenery. Nice clear roads to stretch its legs.

    https://www.northcoast500.com/home.aspx

    With regards to run in. A modern engine made up of fine tolerances, electronic pulses, sensors and switches etc has no need to run in like the older engines when all you needed was a few scanners, a hammer and a set of feeler gauges. But whilst you get used to the car you will probably take it easy the first few hundred miles anyway.

    Enjoy. !
     
  9. Garretto

    Garretto F1 Veteran

    Sep 3, 2003
    5,062
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    +1

    OP, endless discussions without a consensus, as they told you, but I think it's very healthy to take some care in the first 800-1000 km.

    Very few guidelines:

    - allow reaching working temperature (this is actually valid forever)
    - refrain from using the higher 1/3 of the rpm range
    - If you want to perform an active, medium to proper run in, when close to the 1000 km or so, proggressively increase rpm range, maintain rpm for a few seconds, watch temp build up, release for cooling for a few minutes, repeat several times then increase rpm range, repeat a few times until nearly top of the rpm. Space this procedure in, say, a couple hundred km, a couple of days. You'll even notice how the sound of the engine changes a little. Have fun with it :)
     
  10. italiafan

    italiafan F1 World Champ
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    Jul 19, 2006
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    They state "no synthetic oil" during break in or for sure will have glazing...that seems counter to a Factory like Ferrari sending their cars out from the Factory with synthetic oil....hmmmm.
     
  11. CrazyMD

    CrazyMD Formula Junior

    Mar 10, 2012
    404
    Southern California
    Its not just the engine. The gears in the transmission, differentials, etc all need to mate. If you plan on keeping the car, it wont hurt to take it easy the first 500 miles or so.
     
  12. Brian L

    Brian L Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2015
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    Two dealers said they are run in plenty at the factory.

    But I was still gentle to 1000 miles.
     
  13. seawise

    seawise Karting

    Feb 29, 2016
    96
    Sussex, UK
    I am pretty mechanically sympathetic anyway, and only stretch a car on the track, which is not what my FF is for. I have GT3 RS and GT4 for track use (blasphemy on a Ferrari site, sorry!). Thanks again for all the advice, great forum by the way.
     
  14. ChalStrad

    ChalStrad Formula 3

    Jan 22, 2004
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    I assure you that any new Ferrari has been driven harder than 99.99% of owners will ever drive it.

    Scrub in the tyres, for say 50 miles and then let it fly. Just beware of how the pads have been run in. That is the only real key to a new Ferrari
     
  15. Jasone

    Jasone Formula 3
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    Nov 15, 2011
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    If there was a real need for a "break-in" period then they would also require an oil change after that period ended but the dealer and factory swear there is no need for an oil change on new cars for 12K miles. The brakes definitely need breaking in.
     
  16. eric

    eric Formula Junior

    Aug 3, 2001
    705
    Albion, CA
    To say nothing of the time the engine spends in the engine dyno room before even going into the car. If you've ever walked by that part of the factory, even with all the sound-proofing, the wail of the engines being broken in and tested is a symphony worth hearing. There's little any of us could do to the engine that hasn't been done in that room.

    I always figure the warning in the manual to take it easy for the first however many miles is more about breaking in the software blob of flesh behind the steering wheel than any mechanical bits.
     
  17. FFMAC

    FFMAC Formula Junior

    Jul 20, 2012
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    Collect from dealer. Allow engine to warm up. Cane it! :D
     

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