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Best GT4 Educational Thread?

Discussion in '308/328' started by t6dpilot, Mar 4, 2016.

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  1. t6dpilot

    t6dpilot Rookie

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    Gents, I am a new member here although not new to vintage Ferraris. I frankly grew up around them from an early age - mostly of the Columbo V12 variety. I am a long time early Porsche 911 enthusiast and have enjoyed learning about those cars, period correctness, and Sports Purpose factory mods. The thing is that I am developing a soft spot for the 308 GT4 and would like to immerse myself in learning about the model in detail - all those nuances between years, factory correctness, owner self maintenance, etc.

    Is there a thread here that is the definitive GT4 thread where somebody new to the model can go to learn? I have searched and not seen much. Or is there another online source for learning? Any direction you guys can point me in would be great. Thanks.
     
  2. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Search for our member robertgarven..

    He has a very original GT4 he has long owned and cared for, and is also buying a brand new remanufactered 308GT4, that is almost completed.

    His "new adventure" thread is like watching the Factory itself build one (well, ok...they are doing MUCH better than Ferrari did!)...

    But his threads really paint an excellent picture of ownership of the model, IMO.

    Our sponsor Bradan also did a bare metal respray on one..
    You can search by thread originator, and find these pretty easily....
     
  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Welcome!!

    Fill in your profile so others near you can offer help in the market, and joining FCA gets their Newsletter to your door.

    I think the ads there, are usually some very well cared for cars!
    Alan
     
  4. kiwiokie

    kiwiokie Formula 3
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    Hi T6dPilot, I think I recognize your username from the Pelican Parts site? Before I bought my car I found this site to be useful in learning about all things 308. The link to Daves GT4 Overview is useful. Ferrari 308 Mondial parts and service
    Cheers, John
     
  5. t6dpilot

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    Kiwiokie, yes that is me from Pelican and Early S Registry. Thank you for that link. I will look forward to reading that information. I will also search for robertgarven and more completely fill in my profile as well - thanks for that recommendation BigTex. We used to get the Ferrari Market Newsletter, so may be a good idea to fire that subs. up again.
     
  6. t6dpilot

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    I would love to hear some comments regarding maintenance. Is this a car that is maintainable by a competent home mechanic? I hear that the 308 is and would love to hear comments from owners here. I know that regular trips to a specialist shop or the dealer could quickly bury you, so am wondering about the maintainability of the car and online mechanical discussions that are out there. Thanks for humouring a newb.
     
  7. kiwiokie

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    The major mechanicals of the 308GT4 and later GTB/GTS are nearly identical. I think with any car of this age the key determinant of reliability is condition at the point of purchase. If you buy a car from a non-enthusiast that has had little use for the last decade (commonly what pops up on eBay) you can count on having to spend some time and attention on what I believe are the four systems that impact the frustration of ownership the most - ignition, fuel, coolant and brakes. Each has a starting point and an ending point and if you want relatively trouble free ownership you need to go to the start and clean, flush, renew and work your way to the end. You may not need to do these all at once but for instance, if you have a stuck caliper, you may as well start at the brake fluid reservoir and work you way down to the calipers as you can almost guarantee there is crud in the reservoir, master cylinder is probably in need of a rebuild, fluid is probably saturated and all four calipers likely need attention. Others may have more pointed advice.
     
  8. t6dpilot

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    I feel like those new guys on the early 911 forums asking the most basic of questions - SWB versus LWB. Sorry. So what is the consensus here regarding Series I versus Series II. I get the sense that the Series I cars are the more desireable. Would love to hear the opinions of the knowledgeable folks here. Or are they very similar animals to those in the know? Thanks again!
     
  9. PDB

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    I'm a recent new GT4 owner and mine is a '74 Series I. I'm not a big fan of the full width front grill so I prefer the Series I, but it is entirely down to personal taste.
    I'm slowly finding my way around the car and getting to know its character.

    Paul
     
  10. Dom

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    Series 1 vs 2 doesn't matter all that much in regard to a 40 year old car. Where it does make a big difference is in California. Here, only 1975 and older cars are smog exempt, and therefore you can expect these cars to be more desirable.
     
  11. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Early cars had the Dino badging when new, simpler bumper systems.

    Later cars, if you want a sunroof coupe!

    The break in engine spec is in 1978.

    Earlier, NON CAT, higher cam profiles.
    Later, CATS required, and softer cams...
     
  12. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Unless you need to register the car in California buy the best car you can find regardless of spec.
     
  13. Dom

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  14. Blackandbluedino

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    I bought S/N 10906 from the 3rd and 4th owners (mother and son). She bought the car at 61 in 1979 and the two of them owned the car for the next 27 years. I do all of my own maintenance and the car has been on many long (400+mile) trips without so much as a hiccup. Other than the funky ring nut tools, working on the Dino is fairly straightforward if a little convoluted at times. Cars next big evolution is a return to the original white - mother had the car painted black in 1980 - for which I am going to disassemble the car for the painter. I drive the car and enjoy it immensely. I have completely removed but kept the emission controls (the air pump bearings are beginning to growl) and I am upgrading the A/C with the RetroAir system for 308s. My wife and I pulled in the new coolant hose through the left rocker panel and the car runs a dual PerTronix ignition system and coils. Nothing has been too hard, the timing belts have been done twice, the shocks rebuilt (professionally by Koni), new suspension bushings, brakes, the list goes on... It is a Series 1 and virtually none of the factory upgrades were ever done to the car. Only the nose, tail and steering wheel badges were every changed. None of the mechanical mods/upgrades listed in Ferrari tech bulletins (see Birdman's website) were ever accomplished because - according to mother - she never had to take the car in for anything. It always ran fine.
     

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