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  1. monza75

    monza75 Formula 3

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  2. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    Compression test today (thanks to DMWC for manning the starter) and not good news.

    Down to 165lb on one cylinder and none above 175. All were around 190 last time. I thought it was feeling down on power, now I know why.

    So it's rebuild time, hoping VDS in Indianapolis can do it inside of a few months, but I'll probably have to miss Sydney Retro Speedfest in June :(
     
  3. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Just up the boost. Why would that happen? Wear and tear?
     
  4. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Race 3

    Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap CL Laps Race.Time Fastest...Lap

    1 38 Eggleston Motorsport Matthew Solomon Mercedes Benz AMG GT 6300 C 6 21:03.8541 6 1:58.1943*
    2 2 JAMEC PEM Racing Stephen McLaughlan (VIC) Audi R8 LMS 5200 C 6 21:05.3087 6 2:02.9418
    3 37 Darrell Lea Klark Quinn (QLD) McLaren 650S GT3 3800 C 6 21:05.6017 6 1:58.2698
    4 5 GT Motorsport Greg Taylor (NSW) Audi R8 LMS 5200 C 6 21:06.6426 6 2:02.9061
    5 95 Miedecke Motor group George Miedecke (QLD) Aston Martin Vantage 6000 M 6 21:07.9666 6 1:59.2304
    6 60 Tekno Nathan Morcom McLaren 650S GT3 3800 C 6 21:08.5614 6 1:59.3798
    7 4 Supabarn Supermarkets Marcus Marshall Audi R8 LMS 5200 C 6 21:10.1904 6 2:00.6019
    8 93 Waltec Motorsport John Martin Porsche 997 GT3-R 3996 C 6 21:10.4463 6 1:59.2549
    9 51 AMAC Motorsport Andrew Macpherson (NSW) Porsche 997 GT3-R 3996 C 6 21:10.4905 6 2:08.2122
    10 61 SLR Tekno Nathan Antunes (NSW) McLaren 650S GT3 3800 C 6 21:11.2239 6 1:58.9817
    11 92 Modena Engineering Ricky Capo (VIC) BMW Z4 GT3 4500 C 6 21:11.5808 6 2:01.6714
    12 59 McLaren Melbourne Jonathon Webb (NSW) McLaren 650S GT3 3800 C 6 21:14.6714 6 1:59.3023
    13 21 Rosso Verde Racing Hector Lester Ferrari 458 GT3 4458 C 6 21:15.3313 6 2:06.8685
    14 49 DeFelice Homes Andrea Montermini (ITA) Ferrari 488 GT3 3900 I 6 21:15.4310 6 1:58.4009
    15 1 JAMEC PEM Racing Christopher Mies (Ger) Audi R8 LMS 5200 C 6 21:16.0910 6 1:58.6897
    16 99 Fire Rating Solutions Matthew Turnbull (VIC) Lamborghini LP-560 G 5200 I 6 21:16.2358 6 2:09.1621
    17 100 SR Motorsport Steve Richards (VIC) BMW M6 GT3 4400 C 6 21:16.9490 6 2:00.5900
    18 43 Koala Motorsport Brenton Griguol (SA) Ferrari F430 GT3 4300 I 6 21:17.9286 6 2:09.4423
    19 9 Bondi Wholefoods Ash Samadi (VIC) Mercedes Benz AMG SL 6208 C 6 21:18.3508 6 2:09.9539
    20 33 Fastway Couriers Simon Ellingham (NZ) Audi R8 Ultra 5200 C 6 21:18.8563 6 2:13.1600
    21 8 Maranello Motorsport Cameron McConville (VIC) Ferrari 458 GT3 4498 C 6 21:21.8499 6 2:03.2049
    22 62 Performance West Alex Rullo (WA) Lamborghini Gallardo 5200 C 6 21:22.2472 6 2:06.6180
    DNF 11 Objective Racing Tony Walls (QLD) McLaren 650S GT3 3800 C
    DNF 23 JBS Australia Roger Lago (QLD) Lamborghini R-EX 5200 C
    DNF 46 M Motorsport John Magro (QLD) Lamborghini Gallardo 5200 C
    DNF 222 Scott Taylor Motorsport Craig Baird (QLD) Mercedes Benz AMG GT 6300 C
    DNF 14 Taplin Real Estate Dean Canto (SA) Lamborghini Gallardo 5200 C
    DNF 48 Interlloy M Motorsport Glen Wood (VIC) Lamborghini R-EX 5200 C
    DNF 88 Maranello Motorsport Tony D'Alberto (VIC) Ferrari 488 GT3 3800 I
    EXC 7 Darrell Lea Tony Quinn (QLD) Aston Martin Vantage 5955 C
     
  5. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Just stop ****ing around and get yourself an F1 car
     
  6. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Bugger!! That engine didn't last long did it?

    Can you just park it up and run it around in June at the Retro Speedfest?

    You will be off the pace of course, but at least you will be on the track having some fun mate.

    Down on compression/power is for one more track meet is not going to harm that engine anymore.
     
  7. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    +1

    A Ferrari F1 car. :D
     
  8. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    I rebuilt the bottom end, didn't do rings, because refitting heads is quite complex. The bores looked in good shape, still had hone marks. So I've had nearly 4 years out of it - that's good going. The rated life is 6 hours!

    Risk of trashing the liners if I keep running it - lots of fuel blow-by happening. Changing liners is a big deal.

    Wether or not I use it at Speedfest will depend on how busy VDS are, waiting to hear from them.
     
  9. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    Buying a fake F1 car is easy, buying a real one (that's worth owning) is the challenge.
     
  10. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Ok man, I understand. Didn't realise there was lot of blow-by going on.

    And 4 years and lots of hours out of it is good going alright!

    Hoping you hear good news from the guys in the US.


    $2M will buy you an ex-Schumacher car. ;)

    Just saying. :eek:
     
  11. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    I'm pretty sure I'm right saying IanB would not want a car that modern that would require a team of at least 10 mechanics to start it up.

    He will be looking for a 70's or 80's car I assume.
    Pete
     
  12. DMWC

    DMWC Formula 3

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    I am not sure how many mechanics were used to get Ian's March off the start line during its Indy career but he manages to get by using a team of one for the current series of events that the March competes in
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah, was only kidding mate. :D
     
  14. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    Correct, the cutoff for F1 in FIA historic racing is 1985, for Indy cars it's 1986. Anything later than that is not eligible for any event anywhere.

    Later cars get "invited" to events, but they depend on the interest of event organisers, rather than having a right to enter. There are non-FIA events where you can run modern cars, but in Australia the grids and locations are not appealing. Going to Wakefield Park to race against 2 year old F3 cars doesn't appeal much...

    From about 1988, F1 (and Indy) cars required custom modified computers to start them. At the end of each season, the engine manufacturers took the engines and laptops back (engines were leased to teams) and today you can't run them. Ferrari are an exception through their Corsa Clienti program, but that's not racing.

    My preference is also a carbon tub, for safety reasons, so I'm looking at 84 & 85 cars only.
     
  15. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    #3665 Aircon, Mar 22, 2016
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    another lucky duck!

    Video has emerged of a lucky escape at Goodwood in which a historic Formula 1 car flipped into a pedestrian tunnel during the weekend’s Members’ Meeting.

    Sixty-year-old driver Stephen Bond sustained a broken collarbone after his 1961 Lotus 18 was clipped by an out-of-control Cooper T51 driven by rival Richard Wilson.

    The contact sent Bond into an end-over-end flip that saw the Lotus end up in an empty pedestrian tunnel on the side of the circuit.

    Organisers immediately brought a halt to the race, which was held for 1954-60 grand prix machinery.

    The accident came on the same day that Fernando Alonso walked away from a frightening rollover in the season opening Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix.




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  16. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Yes motor racing is dangerous but the IMO fools that compete at Goodwood take this historic racing way too seriously and the end result is lives at risk and these old cars are unnecessarily damaged.

    Nobody wins anything in historic racing. These cars won their IMPORTANT races over 50 years ago!

    Just stupid. I'd never enter a car. Yes I want to go as a spectator to Goodwood, but I would not want to see a smash up derby.
    Pete
     
  17. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    I have to say that the driving standards of the UK drivers at Phillip Island this year were quite appalling and apparently this is frequently the case.

    The bloke in the Cooper caused that accident when he understeered off. I'm guessing it was 1st lap, cold tyres, etc.

    Amazing the Lotus driver survived.
     
  18. yasmin

    yasmin Formula Junior

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  19. I16

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  20. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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  21. Dave 456

    Dave 456 Formula 3

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    Ian, the driving standards in historic events has been a concern from day 1. A lot of drivers suffer from "the older I get, the faster I was" - and most historic cars, particularly production types, are much faster than they were in period. In 12 years (100 races, about) I had 2 DNF's - one was by a driver in his first race who was grossly overdriving the car - never completed the first lap, thanks to him neither did I. It wasn't a "racing accident", it was sheer bloody stupidity, that earned him a licence suspension.

    I'd make the observation that the guys in open wheel cars seem to be more sensible - fear maybe? The was one notable exception, but I don't think he's driving these days.

    Every time I've been to the Goodwood Revival (and Festival) there have been some dumb, and sometimes very expensive, accidents. It doesn't improve the racing one bit.

    One day there will be a biggie, that will cause a reaction similar to the current one in the UK about historic air shows - don't get me started on that...
     
  22. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
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    That ruined blue T70 in the photo above has significant history and will never be the same again as it will have to be re-tubbed. Such a waste.

    95% of Aussie open wheel drivers are sensible, use their mirrors and can be trusted to go side by side through a corner. One of the greatest thrills of historic racing is going wheel to wheel around a fast corner, all of your senses are dialled to 11, because the slightest mistake means you're both going off.

    You quickly learn who can't be trusted and avoid close quarters with them. The UK drivers at Phillip Island were in another league of bad - weaving on the straights for no reason, not watching their mirrors at all and doing everything they could to block faster cars. That's not racing, it's just wrong and the driver standards people should have been all over them. However, they're treated like royalty because they've come so far and I suspect a dose of cultural cringe - we can't be rude to our superiors can we?
     
  23. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    Fixed
     
  24. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    You and Gesim are off to Tassie for the Targa ??

    Good luck and come back in one piece !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  25. VMax

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