The problem could always be above Arrivabene...
Exactly. Philip Morris has been backing the Scuderia for more than 10 years now. How many 15, 20 I don't know. By now, they must have pumped something like between $1 to 2 BILLIONS in the Scuderia, maybe even plus. That gets you some leverage over time, I would think!! So, when I learnt that the long term Marlboro liaison man had landed himself the job of team manager at the Scuderia, it looked to me like Philip Morris wanted to protect its investment by planting one of their men right inside Maranello. After all, Arrivabene isn't Ferrari groomed; he is a complete outsider at Ferrari, who owes his career to Philip Morris. Arrivabene has never been part of the Ferrari structure, and now, he has one of the most coveted jobs in motor racing!!!
You are correct pm wants to have its say in the team as well ... $100 m is a lot to spend for no advert space or naming
And there you have it. You summed it up well. So even I the humble fan can understand. My GF and I were just talking about this tonight. How popular would the NFL be if the Patriots, 49ers whoever went almost undefeated each season and won the super bowl every year? Let them compete. I want to see driver vs driver, not a superior car vs a non-superior car.
We should write the 2017 regs, it's painfully obvious any one of us knows the sport and its fans better.
1-less aero, i.e. simpler wings and minimum ride heights 2-allow testing and development for at least the first half of the season.
Arrivabene is not just the "Marlboro man", he worked with the FIA representing the sponsors at the F1 Commision. I think that Marchionne put him in charge because he knows how things work in F1 and knows the people who pulls the strings there, so Ferrari could recover some of the political influence they´ve lost to Red Bull and Mercedes these last seasons. I think Arrivabene has being relatively succesful, with changes in the tokens regulations and things like that, so hopefully there is more to come from him. Personally I think the big problem right now is the car, so I´d prefer someone with experience working on it. Allison is a good choice so leave him alone. Also, some are hinting at Aldo Costa as the replacement of Allison as Technical Director; we already tried that and it didn´t work, so I don´t know if it would be a good idea. And before someone suggests that Costa is rocking at Mercedes, don´t forget that he´s not the Technical Director there. Maybe he´s very good at his work but not as a Technical Director.
I think it's really stupid if Arri gets replaced. He has been stabilizing the team for a while now, after what looked and seemed like a poison atmosphere. How quickly do these guys wants the results? Frankly, i think Ferrari have been progressing well. It's just the rules holding us back. I just hope Ferrari is not stupid enough to destabilize the team now.
So, the fans want spec racing? No tire changes? No pit stops at all? Just a pure drivers' series? BMW Procar and BMW Boxer-Cup (motorcycles) immediately come to mind. Absolutely incredible racing, but it usually sorted itself out and became boring after about 20 minutes...so they kept races to 18 minutes...and made them 'support' races to the real events. No thank you... I like the suspense of pit stops. I appreciate the differences between cars and how a particular solution might be superior at Monaco, but fail miserably at Monza. I applaud those who engineer better than the competition. These three specific item I mention have been a very integral part of F1 for nearly ever. The driver is another component...never has been the whole ball of wax.
So Aldo says he is not coming back to Ferrari and plans to extend his contract after it's up with Merc here in two years.. All of this is media hype.
I think with the massive praise from within the team, I don't think he'll get replaced. It would be pointless (and probably even be counter productive) to replace him.
Yes, as I said, the guy is a great motivator. The team will work harder for a guy they like and respect We saw this with MSC as a driver. The team would do anything for him.
That formula crowned many deserving champions through decades, and I don't see no good reason not to go back to it, rather than orchestrate a dog and pony show. That's what F1 used to be mostly, until Bernie started to introduce plenty of artificial stuff in the races. This was mostly done to please the owners of TV channels who knew nothing about F1, but wanted it on their programme.
Bloody perfect from the sounds of it !! Jean Todt wasn't Ferrari groomed and he was well respected by the team members and the drivers (I'm sure he and Michael needed a room sometimes ) Sometimes you need an outsider to put fresh ideas forward without the Ferrari baggage a "groomed" person would have
I just think Allison is one of if not the most competent person in f1 atm and would welcome him as the big boss. In comparison Arrivabene doesn't look half as intelligent aor professional.
No, you are right, Jean Todt wasn't Ferrari groomed, but compared to Marizio Arrivabene, he had quite a CV in motor racing to his name. From a co-driver job, Todt managed Peugeot re-entry in motor sport in the 70s/80s. He built a team that went on to take several Paris_Dakar rallies, and then attack and win the World Rally Championship. When that was achieved, he wrote a project for an endurance programme for Peugeot and defended it in front of the board. He managed an endurance team that went on to win Le Mans and the WEC at the time. What has Arrivabene achieved in motorsport prior to his appointment compared to that? It may seems that I am against the guy, but I am not. He may turn up to be very good at his job, and I wish him success. I just said that his position seems to me to owe more to Philip Morris than to Ferrari. The position of team manager at the Scuderia always was precarious anyway...
What's the rush? I remember Jean was hired in 1993(?) and only got his first title with MS and Ross and Rory in 1999 (WCC). Ferrari are in the midst of rebuilding. The rules aren't really helping without this no testing BS. But stability is at the moment more important before progress. I hope Sweater knows what he's doing.
I think Ferrari are trying to repeat there previous winning sequence by trying the same recipe : 1. get a well respected person (like JT) to run the team , who doesn't have the Ferrari baggage 2. Get another Ross Brawn (they're substituting Allison here) 3. Throw a German driver into the 1st seat 4. Have a competent but non-threatening #2 This could all come unstuck if they hire Verstappen or Ricciardo when they move Kimi on
