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  1. AMLC

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    Apr 4, 2009
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    The results are on the site (Spring Classics | Coys of Kensington) but I don't see AM120.371 in the list, so it probably was not sold at the 08 Mar 2016 Coys Spring Classics Auction.

    Was this one already discussed, red LHD automatic, in Japan?: Maserati Khamsin - Album on Imgur
     
  2. richjar

    richjar Formula Junior

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    Hi All,
    I have developed a leak, well in the main lower central fuel tank. I have located the leak to be a seep from the main banjo fixing line from the tank to the engine.
    The tank looks like is it covered with glass fibre. What is the tank made from?

    Thanks,
    Richard
     
  3. au-yt

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    Richard the tank is steel , I wonder if they covered in the tank in Fiberglass due to corrosion.
    There are two seal on the Banjo but if it leaking either side it's an tank out repair.
    There may be the odd tank around talk to the guys at MIE as they have parted the odd car.
    Graeme
     
  4. richjar

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    Thanks for the clarification Graeme
     
  5. Nembo1777

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    Hello from Menton (near Monaco) where I am for the Monaco historic Grand prix and auctions, hope to meet some of you here.

    Well the one closest to the camera is my ex car 1242 funny it is a tiny detail, not important at all but despite all the passing years and the bare metal repaint last year it still has the wipers too high and still has the USA charcoal canisters (I myself should have removed them a decade ago:) the other car was discussed here recently, the one which sat in German museums for years and just got a gearbox conversion, but yes did not know my ex car had been in that workshop but then again Holland is pretty dense with Khamsins.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  6. AMLC

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    Looks like the one in the front still has the US indicators? And the one in the back has a smooth nose (maybe #136?)?
     
  7. f308jack

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    Marc, you touched upon a nice topic there: Khamsin density. Apart from economic factors, it tells something about differences in taste geographically.

    Holland has a very high density, does anyone know how many Khamsins are there? As many as 1 per million inhabitants?
    Here in SA it is one per 17 million.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  8. AMLC

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    Holland: maybe 10 or 11 Khamsins in Holland on Dutch licence plates I think, and about 17 million people.
     
  9. f308jack

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    Thanks AMLC, I somehow thought there'd be more there. Khamsins, I mean, not people without registration. So, not quite 1 PPM.

    Still, Holland may be the country with the highest density of Khamsins?

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  10. Nembo1777

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    Hi all,

    In the photo referenced by AMLC yes of course I missed the fact that the car in the back has a smooth nose so not a US car I guess it is 136 ex Venezuela.

    On the gold car in front it looks like my car via soooo many details but is missing stickers that it still had at Retromobile so again yes you are right it is that other gold ex German museum just converted to 5 speed.

    Re K's in Holland it is more like 14, one other car left for the Antwerpen region in Belgium but several have come in, one form Germany (058) as well as 082 and 398 from Sweden 18 months ago.

    I can tell you the density of Khamsins here in Monaco:) 1 car (AM120387 tested in Octane in the south of France a few years ago) it lives here most of the time but is actually British registered. I had a great ride up the cliffs with its enthusiast owner 4 years ago. Population officially 37000 though it does not count all who own a home here (such as half the F1 drivers for example ) most of whom are here very little.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  11. mamamia

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    Ladies and gentlemen I’m curious.

    I have noticed that “Maserati Khamsin” is by far the most popular thread in the Maserati section ( 6,310 replies and 682,369 views ), with the next most popular “Maserati Ghibli (1966 - 1973)” thread ( 2,014 replies and 182,928 views ), lagging far behind.

    With only some 400 odd Khamsins produced, why is this thread so popular ?

    After all, there were some 1,298 Ghiblis, coupes and spyders, produced.

    The Khamsin is indeed a fine Maserati, but so are many others.

    Am I missing something ? Please enlighten me !

    What makes the Maserati Khamsin thread so popular ?

    Does this mean Khamsin owners/enthusiasts are more passionate than others ?
     
  12. Merak1974

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    Well, they are great cars! ... but perhaps Marc Sonnery has a little bit to do with the popularity... just a little bit at least :)
     
  13. Nembo1777

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    Hello all,

    Gabriel thanks but it is certainly not about me, I am just eager to get what was a very forgotten car appreciated by real enthusiasts, maybe that is the case now.
    Henry it not about numbers but about feelings, every aspect of the Khamsin driving experience is quite unique, at least as much as its looks and the way the car came out is very comparable to an extraordinary wine that just makes you go wow. You are too focused on numbers that is maybe where you need to rethink; feel don't calculate but perhaps you are destined to like other cars, to each his own. Only 430 K's were built because of the energy crisis having a disastrous effect on sales, not because they were unpopular; again numbers are meaningless unless you examine the context.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  14. silvsurf

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    Dear Marc,

    your post above is the best proof for Gabriel's assessment, that your enthusiasm and passion for the Khamsin is at least partially responsible for the lively discussions in this thread!

    best

    Herbert
     
  15. AMLC

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    Although I agree with the previous reactions ("just a little bit":)) Mamamia's question reminds me of the Maserati buyer's guide (Crump/Box 1984) where you can find this observation:
    "Few expensive motor cars increase in charisma; many buyers become bored and are not prepared to suffer with the niggling faults associated with exotic Italian automobiles. Apparently Khamsin owners are not so inclined, preferring to develop a lengthy relationship with this Maserati."
    So maybe Khamsin owners/enthusiasts really are more passionate than others!
     
  16. f308jack

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    There's of course Marc's invaluable constribution, but don't forget that almost all posts on Khamsins are concentrated in this one thread, contrary to any other model, where topics are spread over many threads.

    There are things to be said pro and contra each formula, but the Khamsin thread has created a great brotherhood amongst the owners, with to the point advice at one's fingertips. The lack of professional Khamsin specialists and geography are being compensated for by experienced owners who do their own work and give advice freely.

    No wonder this thread is popular.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  17. richjar

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    Hello,
    Does anyone have any experience with fuel tank repair specialists in England that they can recommend. And any knowledge / comments on the Re-nu process???
    Best regards,
    Richard
     
  18. Otto Paulsen

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    Henry,
    Khamsins are very rare cars and for the few owners and enthusiasts such a thread is just fine enough to correspond with each other. No fancy graphic functions and upload bots needed.
    And Marc is watching over this thread like a mother watches her toddler. And whenever there is no recent comment which keeps it on the top list of Maserati threads Marc will surely add an observation he made on the last auction or salon or wherever he tries to hide in order to not fall for his hidden passion of writing romantic novels.
    And more sternly I have to remark that the Khamsin Registry website was neglected for long years and so we have all gathered around this frugal campfire in the middle of hostile (F***ari) territory. And it is just fine :)
    Cheers, Otto

     
  19. OFFtrack

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    Hello,
    last week when I went to LP in Cologne to observe #232 they told me it was sold a day ago. As the asking price was 250k € and was non negotiable I presume it actually sold for that price. Only numbers but thought some of you might be interested.

    And yes, I took the photo of the 2 Ks in Holland and the car in the front belongs to my friend who just got it converted to manual.

    greetings from Berlin
    Dirk
     
  20. AMLC

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    There isn't much information about Khamsin prices, so yes, very interesting!

    It looks like 250k € is the price in the current market for a very good (or very original/first owner) manual EURO Khamsin. And that for instance the 278k they were (or still are) asking for #392 is a bit too much.
     
  21. Nembo1777

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    Hi all,

    Been traveling and a bit sick.

    Here at last are the first photos of the 1/18 scale Khamsin by Minichamps, all other ads show the 1/43 scale version. The shape looks right, except maybe the back end (the vertical part with the glass and lights) seems a bit rounded, concave, instead of being straight but hard to tell from such photos. I bought their 1/18 Bora a few weeks ago and it is very finely done, just right in terms of shape. No opening doors in both cases and be careful, the "glass" is surprisingly thin and will buckle under you fingers. Thy are coming up with a Merak as well, great to see:) I am not commercially involved at all.

    Minichamps 1977 Maserati Khamsin Red in 1 18 Scale New Release in Stock | eBay

    Re K 232 I always loved that car, it was a privilege to borrow it for a full day 6 years ago (thanks H) and felt it was special so if they got that sort of money for it good for them.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  22. AMLC

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    Very nice this 1/18 scale Khamsin, I bought one in luci di bosco.
     
  23. Nembo1777

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    Hi AMLC!

    I will buy a big handful and get them repainted in my favorite colors though yes keeping one in luci del bosco and will get a fly yellow tan spyder made-with a smoother upsweep behind the doors than on the real one-, it will take a while but well worth it:)

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  24. AMLC

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    That's a lot more than I have, I only have one! But although it is not "my" colour I will keep it this way, in fact I do like this colour. And I do have a celeste Khamsin modelcar also, but it is in 1/43.
     

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