Given that I have the modded Italia I am currently lucky enough to own, I would personally buy a GTR over a 488 anyday: save tons of money, same performance or better if tuned, all wheel drive and imho more personality in the chassis design, at least the look is iconic and does not look like a cross between two marques as in Lambo/Ferrari. Last but not least, I have heard some pretty epic sounding GTR's and so far have not heard a 488 which satisfied my ear..
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Nice spec. There are quiet a few for sale now. Also know of three. Local car show had 4x 488 show up as well.
Speciale or 458 don't drive like a Lexus. In fact, these two have more pedal feel than 488. And the 488 laps Fiorano........0.5 SECOND faster than Speciale. The only thing the 488 better is the straight race. In this case, you can easily modify a VW Golf to smoke the 488.
Wait until the hardcore version comes out next year or at least somebody has spied photo on it. This will become the next Cali T.
Lol with the amount of cars I see it could very well be. Drove to the grove today and have seen 5 drive around on the way
Here I saw 918 Spyder more than 488. It's like nobody wants one. Last time I saw 458 almost as many as Corvette.
What I don't understand is why Ferrari has found it necessary to go to turbos, but Lambo has not.... Lamborghini's path to the future is paved with forged composites - Autoblog
All signs it is considered generic by owners who are already getting bored with it; the GTB's will be hit hard once the Speciale version comes out..
Because Ferrari felt the need to keep the V8, and the only way to remain competitive, esp. with McLaren's speedy cars, is to turbocharge it. Interesting you bring this up though: if I were in charge I would have put a V10 in the 458's successor and used the 'first ever Ferrari V10' as a marketing tool and, most importantly, the car would have kept Ferrari's glorious NA trademark sound which imho no Fcar owner should be denied from and be forced to compromise. However, money talks and installing a cheaper turbo V8 and relying on the current luster of the marque to pull it off what seemed like a better alternative, imho keep this up and the luster might tarnish: mystique wanes quickly..
$$$$ in engine R&D. Imagine when launching new models, you can use the same small engine for long time to come, you don't need to bring down the weight to get a good ratio as increasing power is too easy and cheap, just add some boost by connecting the ECU to computer. Actually if Ferrari wants to push more, they can actually use 4 cylinders engine to replace the V12-NA. Since the brand is Ferrari, people will buy no matter what. But looks like the Cali T didn't work this way, let's see if 488 works. Lambo learned from Mclaren not to go turbo. The MP4 was much faster, but it's so hard to sell. IMO, cars like Boxster, Z4, Cayman, or entry level Carrera; Are ok to go turbo, because most buyers in this level don't really know what is passion.
Too bad you're not in charge! Well, it wasn't that long ago that Ferrari F1 cars had a V10. So I would think they've already got a little of the requisite R&D in place to make it happen, if they so desired. Or at least offer it as an expensive option for those willing to pay it! Can you imagine how cool that would be?!
As you read it: it means I think the GTR's chassis design has personality and looks iconic, which taken in context means it has an established and recognized design - which I happen to like.
I'm sure I speak for at least some when I say that, maybe the most upsetting part of all, is that this is the first time in 20+ years that the "next" Ferrari just doesn't do it for me. In all previous years, the excitement and anticipation that accompanied arrival of the "next" Ferrari was.... intensely enjoyable! The fact that is no longer there for me with the 488, and likely won't return - well, it's just an extreme let down. Luca was such a master of marketing. On more than one occasion, I heard him say during interviews: "If you ask me, which Ferrari is my favorite, I will always say 'the next.'" I miss Luca, and I miss the excitement that used to come with the "next....."
wait until this charade with the stock market ends and the central banks manipulating the markets...you'll buy ferraris for cents on the dollar...if you don't know what "regression to the mean' MEANS, please don't reply and show your ignorance...
... and there's the problem. Add to that: now a publicly traded company that needs to pay attention to quarterly earnings.... unfortunately the rest is predictable.