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  1. 96redLT4

    96redLT4 Formula Junior

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    Can't wait to hear more about your car msn. It should be epic. Was there a lot of competition at your dealership for the car? It sounds like you got it the way everyone should have been able to get one, eg by being a loyal 911 owner and long time enthusiast.
    Jim
     
  2. randkin

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    Agreed!
     
  3. bjorn156

    bjorn156 Formula Junior

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    110% - let the loyal, appreciative customers have a stab at these beauties.

    definitely congrats msn, can't wait to hear the thoughts on the car, especially after 25 years of porsche ownership. good stuff.
     
  4. msn

    msn Formula Junior

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    #104 msn, Jul 10, 2016
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    Really pleased that my dealer works on traditional values, I've been dealing with the same team for around 25 years and still own most of the cars today. No favours or friends to call on for this special car just good old respect to the loyal customers for years of commitment through all times from when they struggled to sell cars to the times we are in now, nearly 500 cars of the 991 are bound under the PCNA scheme so rest of world get the balance. 23 cars for uk RHD market which makes this car even more special to the prospective owners over here.
    This is the way the system should work
     
  5. TKO

    TKO Formula Junior

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    Congrats MSN. I'm so glad a manufacture like Porsche is listening to some customers desire for a fun manual transmission road car. Save the (slow) manuals!
     
  6. absent

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    Not exactly true.
    At my dealer, all 3 918 owners resold their GT3RS cars back to dealer without even taking them for a spin around the block.
    Now they already made similar agreement regarding the 911R (with dealer paying $200k per allocation).
    They are already thinking about the GT2RS coming next while laughing all the way to the bank.
     
  7. msn

    msn Formula Junior

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    #107 msn, Jul 12, 2016
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  8. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

    ScuderiaWithStickPlease F1 World Champ

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    All I want is the gear shift knob for my desk . . .
     
  9. randkin

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    msn - Do you have any idea why you are getting the advertising literature? Are a 918 owner or received an allocation? I get a bunch of Porsche advertising but have yet to receive any 911 R information so I assume it is being to selected customers.
     
  10. absent

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    He is in a "normal" part of the World (UK), only in US you have to own 918 to be granted the right to purchase 911R.
     
  11. msn

    msn Formula Junior

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  13. footsoldier

    footsoldier Karting

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    I am in the UK, and was allocated an R yesterday. Spec went in today, same colours as msn.
    I do have a 918, which has now done 6,000 miles since purchase, including lapping Spa when it was 16hrs old, (and hitting 200 mph 12 hrs before that...). 924 Carrera GT currently only other P car, but have bought plenty in the past.

    I was missed out first time round on R due to such limited numbers, and no right of refusal for 918 customers. I was not at all impressed, and still think they messed up on numbers for a lot of good customers. However, dealer and Porsche GB have somehow managed to fix at last minute, for which I'm grateful.

    We all pay list price in UK, and I won't be selling. I don't know anyone who is. I'll be putting thousands of miles on it annually, hopefully starting with 1100 miles home from factory.

    Nothing else comes close to the R at the moment, for that (List price) kind of money. I have absolutely no use for an RS, which I could say is a pretend race car with what are, IMO, silly big wings on the road, and which is missing one of the best parts of driving, being the manual box, and the skill/interaction that goes with it.

    The R is not about ultimate speed (although I'll wager I won't be passed by a single RS on a track day...), it's about involvement, within the constraints of modern safety requirements, body shell etc. I'd prefer it it was lighter still, if the ratios were shorter, it didn't have TC or ESP or ABS or RWS or anything else, but it's still pretty damn good considering.

    There's a review on Pistonheads by a guy who drove it yesterday, who has multiple old P cars and Ferraris which he uses to their full extent, and who won national championships in Caterham Superlights in the last few years. He says it is much more than the sum of the parts bin, is "Just Wow" and got under his skin. Good enough? I've not read or seen a single bad review, although I do accept that reviewers go with the Zeitgeist.

    You have to separate the list price of the car from the silly prices people are offering for overs. What's the big problem with Porsche putting all it's best bits into a current shell, tweaking it for driving involvement, adding a bespoke manual box, which will likely then be used in next GT3, and selling it at sub $200k. Would you prefer they didn't do that...why..?

    The only downside I have is I'm going to have to make room by selling my Lotus Exige which I bought as compensation for not getting one originally!
     
  14. KM1959

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    I don't think the car itself is the problem, at MSRP. If it was offered to me at that price I would definitely consider it. At 2x MSRP, it doesn't make sense to me as I don't see the value or growth potential. A manual 2017 911S with $275K still in my account would work better for me. Yeah, the plain ole 911S will depreciate a bunch but I'd still be able to use it as a car and not think of it as part of my high-risk portfolio.
     
  15. LARRYH

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    good for you I would love to have been allocated one .. good luck with it ..
     
  16. LARRYH

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    or better yet the manual GTS could buy that and have enough left over to buy a GT3RS the R can't be that good..(i think you would still have around 75k left over..)
     
  17. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    When Porsche announced a less luxurious, more driver-oriented 911 I was all for it, hoping they intended a severely de-contented 911 to be made in typical numbers alongside the rest of the line-up. That was silly, I guess.....
     
  18. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    They will make more money per car with the R. It's all about the Benjamins. ;)
     
  19. Wegentop

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    My R will Build this September, hopefully will delivered before Christmas.
     
  20. Sfumato

    Sfumato F1 World Champ

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    Cool. Regular customer, or 918 owner? You're in right-side up world (US is upside down now, sadly). Hopefully it won't be too expensive down there. Oz probably won't get but a handful I'd guess.
     
  21. Wegentop

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    Regular customer, we don't have 918 problem in Aus ...the retail price with no options is $404700 AUD ..... and surprised we do receive 25 in the country.
     
  22. absent

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    Lucky guy!
     
  23. Sfumato

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    Wow! More cars than I'd expected, but still a tiny amount. Price always shocking down under.
    Again, how the system should work. Good for you.
     
  24. TKO

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