FIA tightens radio ban. Vettel's reaction..:)

Vettel is turning into the Brad K. of F1.

 

Vettel's right

 

Yes!

 

What I find amusing is that a link from our new fchat owners is censored

 

radio transmissions from engineer to driver should be free. Ultimately this is still a team sport and the margins for error are wafer thin.The FIA picks and chooses what they deem technologically relevant for racing. Remember active suspension, launch control, ABS, ground effects and four wheel steering? The Concorde Agreement banning all but piston engines? The series is a FORMULA. At Silverstone the Mercs were 3 seconds a lap faster. The downside was they are also at least 1.5 seconds faster than everybody else.
I would say the way to more advocate more competitive racing with less cost is to reduce the fuel capacity of the fuel cells and limit the number of pit crew. Make the sport more about the team strategy and less about the biggest check book. But then it would not be motorsports would it?

 

The link came up "Page Not Found 404".


Messages than can be permitted to the driver during a race – revised regulations

1. Acknowledgement that a driver's message has been heard, this may include repeating the message back to the driver for the sole purpose of confirmation.
2. Indication of a problem with the car, any message of this sort must include an irreversible instruction to enter the pits to rectify the problem or to retire the car.
3. Information concerning damage to the bodywork of the car.
4. Instructions to select driver defaults, this must be for the sole purpose of mitigating loss of function of a sensor, actuator or controller whose degradation or failure was not detected and handled by the on-board software.
It will be the responsibility of any team giving any such instruction to satisfy the FIA technical delegate that this was the case and that any new setting chosen in this way did not enhance the performance of the car beyond that prior to the loss of function (see Article 8.2.4 of the Technical Regulations).
5. Indication of a problem with a competitor's car.
6. Marshalling information (yellow flag, red flag, blue flag, safety car, virtual safety car, race start aborted or other similar instructions or information from race control). This would include a reminder to switch off the SC “delta time” function after crossing the first safety car line twice from the time the SC was deployed.
7. Passing on messages from race control (this would include a countdown to the start of the formation lap and telling a driver that the last car has taken up position on the grid at the end of the formation lap).
8. Wet track, oil or debris in certain corners.
9. Weather information.
10. Information concerning the driver's own lap time or sector times.
11. Lap time of a competitor.
12. Helping with warning of traffic and gaps to other competitors during a practice session or race.
13. Instructions to swap position with other drivers.
14. Number of laps or time remaining during a practice session or race.
15. Position during a practice session or race.
16. “Push hard”, “push now”, “you will be racing xx”, “take it easy” or similar (you are reminded about suspected use of coded messages when giving these messages or any words of encouragement).
17. When to enter the pits (or go to the grid during reconnaissance laps), any message of this sort may only be used if the driver is to enter the pits on that lap. Having been told when to enter the pits drivers may also be told to stay out if there has been a change of circumstances.
Drivers may also be told what to do once they have entered the pits, e.g. “drive through”, “stop in the box”, “practice pit stop”, “into the garage” or similar information related to the pit stop.
18. The driver's own race pit stop strategy as well as those of his competitors, this is limited to the timing of pit stops and which tyres will be (or have been) used. For the avoidance of doubt, no car or power unit set up may be included in any such strategy discussion.
19. Reminders to use the pit speed limiter, change tyre settings to match the tyres fitted to the car or to check for white lines, bollards, weighbridge lights when entering or leaving the pits.
20. Driving breaches by team driver or competitor, e.g. missing chicanes, running off track, time penalty will be applied etc.
21. Notification that DRS is enabled or disabled.
22. Dealing with a DRS system failure.
23. Oil transfer

 

You didn't quote Alonso with your post

I concede the tyres are designed to age quickly but everything else has always been this way. Even when we had fuel stops if you pushed too hard you compromised the number of laps you could do in that stint.

F1 has NEVER been flat out every lap. Even Alonso would admit when he was leading races back in his WDC years he would have been only pushing as much as needed to hold his lead without over stressing his car/tyres/fuel strategey, etc.

But yes I agree that these cars have artificial restrictions (yes I do not like the tyre situation) but there will never be a race car that can be pushed flat out for every single lap. You would need like 5 lap races for that
Pete

 

The levels at which FIA micromanage the sport are absolutely unbeliavable.

 

Micro-managing occurs when you have fncked up or unable to manage properly IMHO.

Been there and told a few managers to back off
Pete

 

Give them same tyres and the team completing the laps first wins. End of!

What next instead? Check their nappies are clean?

 

So if you have a problem can you drive through the pits, get the fix then head back out?

 

I never said they used to push every lap, you're putting words in my mouth

Bottom line is this is the era in which drivers push the LEAST every race in probably the history of F1.

 

Okay, fair enough

With the Hungoraring race this weekend I will be interested to compare pole with race lap times and if I am motivated enough I'll compare the results with much earlier races.
Pete

 

I remember Ferrari changing pit strategy and Brawn telling Schumacher they need about 15 laps in qualifying speed and Schumacher did deliver...Would never happen today as it would take to much fuel to get over the distance....

The worst thing are the tyres....The rule what tyres they have to start with (qualy-tyres) and that they need to use two different sets a race...So actually at least at one time of the race they have tyres on their car that are less suitable to the circumstances than the others and part of the success is how to get over this period...This is about as silly as to tell drivers in California (at the south coast) that they have to drive winter tyres as well some time over the year just to have all options on the car at least once...

 

You need to look at the fuel loads too. In earlier races, they got to run fresh tires and low fuel.

 

It's stupid. If i were one of the drivers and sensed that something was wrong with the car or being told to come in the pitlane just to say 'save your brakes, etc' I would will come in, retire the car in protest.

 

Is it not allowed to keep a mobile phone in the car?

Or better still, an enigma machine? That would bring so many memories to the German team...

 

Vettel is right.

Let skilled drivers loose on V12's and manual boxes. The Porsche GT4 sold out largely due to the excellent manual involvement.

Leave the buttons for women and children

 

Vettle is saying change the cars to just steering wheel, shifter, and foot pedals, OR remove the silly radio rules if you're going to run high tech cars with multiple configerations.

He's not just saying the former FYI.

I agree, but the former isn't happening.

 

How about this Seb?
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Perfect, and a wailing v12 behind his head

 

F1, currently, sort of reflects the way of the world. Mobs of guys who don't have the talent or skill to drive an F1 car have effectively taken control of the process by seizing the technology. They have made it so complex that no driver without the help of the pit wall can manage to optimize the car's performance. I would prefer that the cars be uncomplicated, or that the driver be left totally alone to figure out how to get it to work.

Back when things were simpler, a driver depressing the accelerator caused more fuel to be fed to the engine. Now when he depresses that "same" pedal, it asks a computer if it would please decide how much fuel and how much stored energy should be used to send more power to the rear wheels. If the driver is lucky, his teams has written an algorithm that best matches what he wants. Absent that, he must hope that the pit wall are able to tell him which combination of settings he needs to dial-in on the steering wheel.

 

Not surprisingly, F1 has had more than it's share of children masquerading as drivers.

 

You are correct. In it's current state, F1 is no longer the pinnacle of physical and mental driving.

 

Wasn't there a team that held Playstation Gran Turismo competitions to find potential drivers?