Ferrari 360 vs Audi R8 vs Lamborghini Gallardo

The 360 had better handling than the Gallardo and felt more nimble. Plus mines a stick so wins there. You can feel the provenance when you drive it IMHO. I just wasn't impressed with the Gallardo. Like an R8 with a V10. R8, never been drawn to it. Styling is functional German.

Putting the Aston and the C63 in the same paragraph is laughable. Both will be worth half in 3 years. C63 will be a $15k used car on a pay-it-now lot in 5 years time. Both are lead anchors for depreciation.

 

I have a gated 360 and a gated Gallardo.....360 is undoubtedly more fun to drive though the Gallardo does garner more attention. I would shy away from the 04 Gallardos and stick to 05 on up if you go that route.....I think R8's look "nice" but doesn't look that exotic to me. I think the plethora of V8 cars lessen the allure of the V10's.

360 Maintenance is less than most people likely envision IF you get a good car to begin with. Costs are going to be close on both if you go with a 3 pedal car, with Gallardo favoring lower maintenance. The Egear is a more responsive/robust transmission over the Ferrari F1 but the clutch costs more.

 

annual with all fluids and filters is $1000-2000 range depending upon where you take it and if you change all fluids or not (not all are spec'd for annual changes).

Every 3 years (by the book, some people go longer) you need to change the belts and tensioners. Its $1800-$2500 for that. Most people combine the belts with an all fluids and filters and call it a "major" service for $3500-$5000 total that year.

There are many threads (including the stickies at the top of the page) that can enlighten on the other costs of ownership. Breakage/wear is the big question mark.

Why do I feel like I'm getting sucked in by this thread? Getting cynical in my older age I guess. Anyways, you are all over on cars to look at, do your research (search) and drive the cars and it will lead you to a decision I imagine.

Edit: Oh crap, now I know why I feel trolled. Just looked up your threads started. You should have several ferrari's and planes by now I gather? I'm out.

 

I would be happy with all three

Regarding the sound of the 360, some people on this forum have mentioned that a Tubi 360 has been the best sounding car they've ever owned. I know for sure that mine (with the Tubi) sounds absolutely amazing. I try driving with the windows down all the time now (only my third day of ownership, mind you, so we will see if it happens in the colder days well ).

I think Top Gear hailed the handling of the R8, so I was surprised to read that you think the 360 felt better? Then again, I haven't driven the R8, but I did try the Lambo (foot well with the three pedals was quite cramped for me... but it was a manual regardless, and oh so much fun).

 

I'd say that the 360 and Lambo would be best at holding their value. I've also considered a Gallardo at one point. In the end, I preferred the look LP/Superleggera versions versus the early clinical looking ones. However, these were outside my budget.

I would say go for the car which makes you feel good and puts a smile on your face. It should be the car that makes you turn back for a glance as you walk towards your house.

 

Over here, you can find many members who also had Gallardo. Besides Gallardo, R8 could be more confortable as you mentioned.. It is an AUDI... and can be a DD easily, value is stablized, and it is a good car. I have an S8 V10 with mods that makes me not to sell her so forced my wife to drive it in the afternoon when she returns from work.

360 and Gallardo are considered as exotic. R8 in my opinion is just like GT-R or NSX category. Vantage's price drops like free fall and you could pick a 08 around V8 Vantage for $50K everywhere.

Reliabilities, R8 would be the best among 3 you mentioned. Once you get into a Ferrari, you will never go anywhere, You are STUCK !!! (Joking) 360's have very sexy lines that people love and it will be a game changer car in a long run as it is a successor of F355 with F-1 available. 360 also hit the bottom of deperication curve so the price will not go down further unless something crazy thing happens. There are few variables out there with 488's market reaction, which could trigger to push down other model's prices.

At the moment, 430's price is quite stablized, 355 and 360 on the rise, 458 started to come into secondary market and few with high miles are listed even below $200K. Each F-Car has its own uniqueness and we shall see how market reacts.

VRSURGEON's comment on C63 and Aston is correct. They can't be in the same category. I have owned CL65 AMG, SL55 AMG, CLS63 AMG's and still a fan of AMG until they went to Turbo's with all other manufacturers did. It is a trend that all the cars are now heading to Turbo's which I do not like in person. 63 NA AMG engine was one of the best for AMG's.
Decided to keep your M3 is a smart choice for DD. Is it V8 or V6 TT?

If you like the comfortable ride, humble looking sporty car, R8 would suit you. If you want to enter the exotic World, 360 would be a great choice as the car is proven to be reliable unless you get a garage queen which will give you headaches in near future.

If you decided to get a 360, make sure you do your homework (Ferrari 101), get the PPI done with all the previous service records including majors, then you will enjoy her for a long time as most of us here.

Each Ferrari has different depreciation curve and you could study on numerous websites. Hagerty is one of them. Currently, Gated Manuals are in high demand for 360 and 430 with huge premium, Testarossa went up in price like a rocket in last 2 years. Even 355 is creeping up on pricing. On the other hand, Ferrari Cali resale value is dropping very fast but it is not an F-Car. Good for DD and family so it is not in the same category for F-Car lovers.

Biggest factors for pricing in next few years is depending on 488 IMHO. Of course 458 will depereciate but maybe it will not go that far as it is so far the last NA V8 F-Car for Ferrari as of now. 458's secondary market price can push down 430's price but for most of people here think 430 is already stablized. It will affect more on later model cars with not popular color combination. My 2 cents.

Go with your intuition which car will make you happy the most. They are all great cars.
What makes you happier getting behind the wheel on weekends should be the deciding factor. What color of 360 Spider did you look?

 

I'd take the AM and Merc out of that comparison and add in a 997 turbo, viper or vette.
I've gotten bored with the looks of the R8. Can't get used to those side "blades" and the v10s are too expensive IMO.
If price were no object, I'd get the Gallardo.
The 997 T is prob superior to all those cars, but too ubiquitous. Just another 911 to most.
The 360 hits my sweet spot of being just exotic enough, just affordable enough, just fast enough, compared to the others, all of which have pros and cons as well, depending what your priorities are. But if an f430 were closer in price to the 360, I'd get the f430.

 

The very low mileage 360s almost overlap in price with the very high mileage F430s.

To me these cars are the golden age of Ferrari. Better levels of reliability and naturally aspirated goodness. But still with enough mechanical feedback without the computery-ness of the latest Ferraris.

 

Big advantage of 360 over 430 is that you can get a 3-pedal car for reasonable money, unlike the 430... If you don't get care for manual 3-pedal, but want an F1, then I would get a 430.

 

Well maintenance hasn't changed much since 2010 when you asked the same question
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/269996-annual-maintenance-costs-360-f430.html

By the way which model did you purchase back in 2006 when you were looking for your first Ferrari?
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/348-355-sponsored-bradan/93035-ferrari-should-i-get-308-328-348-a.html

And in 2011
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/313872-looking-buy-first-ferrari-what-look.html

And when you did not know if the gallardo was the right one in 2011
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-cats-exotics/315088-lamborghini-gallardo-ferrari-f430.html

And when you were confused about getting a 360 (just like now) or wait to an used 458 back in 2011
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia-488/335408-should-i-wait-458-get-430-360-a.html


And when you found a nice 355 but you knew that and extra 10k could get you the 360 in 2014
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/348-355-sponsored-bradan/431943-ferrari-f355-spyder.html

And also in 2014 when you made your mind and said "now I want a Ferrari"
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/458806-now-i-want-ferrari.html

Talking about taking your time to pull the trigger!!!

 

I thought about this history before I wrote my post.. sometimes the thought of buying or telling people "you're going to buy a Ferrari" is sweeter than the real thing.

Comes to Cars and Coffee tells the guys with the GT-R's that he's looking at one but isn't sure. Tells the Ferrari guys that he really wants to buy a 360,430,458, and tells you all about how they drive. etc. Then hops in the M3, Audi S4, etc and does it again the next week. Never realizes that you don't have to "be a buyer" to be a car guy and be interesting conversation.

 

I understand what Fernando is saying. OP has been studying for quite a while... If he's ready to get into Ferrari life, it is time to pull the trigger as price and all other soundings will not make it any easier. It will get tougher and tougher. If you are commited, then get into one... Obviously 360's price has gone up not gone down as OP started looking. He could have gotten a well sorted vehicle with a lot less money few years ago. Now he will have to pay premium as he waited. M3 is a great car overall anyway if it is a NA V8 IMO.

 

I currently own an 06 430 and an 06 Gallardo, both paddle shift. Very different cars. 430 is a bit quicker in a straight line and feels more nimble. Gallardo feels more planted on the highway and "secure" at high speeds, if that makes any sense. I'm a big guy and the 430 is a more comfortable for longer drives, but my particular Gallardo has some extra creature comforts that are nice, such as heated seats, navigation, sat radio, etc. But some 430s might have those options as well, not sure. Overall, at least in the past 3 years I've had them, the Gallardo is a bit more reliable and has significantly lower maintenance and running costs. The 430 I feel is a more beautiful looking car, but other people seem to like the Gallardo more (passerbyes, kids, etc). Sound is subjective, they both sound great, both have valves that open at a certain rpm. My cars are all stock, no aftermarket exhaust or other parts. Not like it matters when dealing with single digits, but fuel mileage seems to be comparable. The interior on the Gallardo seems to hold up better (leather, buttons, etc). Anyways, that's my comparison. If I had to choose one over the other, I'd pick both

 

I was gonna say, hasn't this guy already asked these questions regarding maintenance etc. a whole bunch of times on here already?

 

I completely agree with all of this. I've got a nine-month old now so I've been contemplating switching to a 997T to get the back seat, but it's just so common/plain. I can't bring myself to list the 360.

 

Keep it for weekends and get a new different daily driver, that's still a bit of fun but a little more versatile.
New dads need some fun time to themselves as well (father of a 6yr old)