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650s is faster than 675lt in 1/4 mile

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  1. homesite

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  3. homesite

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    #3 homesite, Aug 9, 2016
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    At double the price.

    Don't get me wrong, it is a beautiful car, but the money I saved, I'm gonna pick up a Hurracan and keep my 650s also,
     
  4. Gated

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    Yep.
     
  5. xskier

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    #5 xskier, Aug 9, 2016
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  6. homesite

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    that's a car mag, not real world test.
     
  7. frefan

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    Hmm, did you notice they were on different MONTHS??
     
  8. xskier

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    and what is wrong with that, then comparing different drag races on different places and different days... Way to many unknown factor.
     
  9. homesite

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    factory cars are usually faster.

    All these cars are seriously fast, but when someone says their 675 is so much faster than a 650 it isn't true.
     
  10. xskier

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    Who said,'their 675 lt is much faster than the 650s.
    Mclaren officialy quotes the 675lt in 22.5 sec upt to 300kmh and a trap of 142mph
    They quote the 650s in 25,6 sec up to 300kmh and a trap of 138mph in the 1/4mile

    so there is a gap between those 2 cars acording to mclaren.
    And according to mag tests, tested both cars (different day) a difference as well.
     
  11. rmitchell248

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    I said my 675 is faster than my 650 and I don't need a magazine to confirm or disprove that for me. I use my cars in ways that I can tell so it's irrelevant to me what tests in different climates result in.
     
  12. dbk

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    675 is definitely faster from behind the wheel. 650S is already extremely fast, but 675LT pulls noticeably harder, at least it did to me.
     
  13. xskier

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    spot on. Coming from the mp12c to the 675lt, the difference feels big.
    But never had the 650s, so i cant compaire first hand 650 vs 675lt
     
  14. homesite

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    The 570 does low 10s also
     
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    You really shouldn't feel a difference when times are so close.

    I have an 8 sec GTR and yes you would feel a difference from stock when trap speed is a 40 mph difference.
     
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    This is correct. However what you do feel is a response or jump from the weight, torque and or gearing differences.

    The LT is a bit quicker than the 488 but their seat of pants is hard to differentiate.

    Take it to the track and monitor corner exit speeds vs max speed at braking points etc and you'll see a more reliable difference;-)
     
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    To add some fuel to the fire, we have tuned both a stock 650S and 675LT.

    All numbers below are peak power numbers as read on our Dynojet:

    650S Stock: 567.21whp - 448.85 ft-lbs of torque
    650S Tuned: 593.63whp - 475.88 ft-lbs of torque

    675LT Stock: 582.66whp - 490.31 ft-lbs of torque
    675LT Tuned: 629.30whp - 516.48 ft-lbs of torque
    675T Tuned + 200 cell HJS Sport Cats: 635.09whp - 526.10 ft-lbs of torque

    That said, the 675LT feels faster, especially as you reach greater speeds where the engine spends longer times in peak power areas. Both are impressed when uncorked.
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  18. dbk

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    You also have to account for how the car is configured.

    I weighed 650S spider and it was ~3354 lb full up. 675LT was ~3075 lbs. You would certainly notice nearly 10% less weight with an extra 25 hp. If you ordered a bare bones 650S coupe and the heaviest configured 675LT, sure, the difference would be less obvious.

    Plus, maybe it was my imagination, but it seems the trans cal in the 675LT is much more aggressive than the 650S.
     
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    That's a coupe vs a spider
     
  22. 1mean3

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    Why should that matter? Do you believe the 650 coupe would be faster?
     
  23. V8ray

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    I'm sure that the coupe is slightly faster. I own one;)
     
  24. dustman

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    I've got the 650s spider. It's no slouch.

    But the 675 is faster.
     
  25. redcaruser

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    The 650S is definitely the faster one - with me behind the steering wheel.
     

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