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Countach Downdraft 1985 to 1988.5

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  1. paul328

    paul328 Formula Junior

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    Once again thanks. My browser only shows one page and no base plate and when I tried to buy one mirror they dont deliver to Scotland! We are still in the EU.....just.

    I have sent an email to them to ask and try and sort this out.

    Regards

    Paul
     
  2. Robert W

    Robert W Formula 3

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    I can give you an exact date on that photo, as I took it. Also have photos of your car at Talacrest being serviced and many others, including I think at Pprtman when originally delivered unregistered and in London on original plate. PM me
     
  3. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for sharing Dani.

    What a resourceful community!

    I should add that if anyone just wants the cases for a sensible price, Peugeot used the same Vitaloni units, although the bases are different.
     
  4. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #3679 joe sackey, Aug 12, 2016
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    Paul,

    @ 28 years ago I drove my then-Downdraft on a certain Motorway heading west of London pointing towards Wales in the dead of night @ 2am, as fast as it would go.

    5th gear, WOT for @ 5 miles at least.

    Ive no idea how fast that actually was, as my eyes were laser-focused on the road. Since the car was only a few years old and well-maintained by Portmans, I think it was in the region of 170-180mph.

    I did this on twice, purely for the thrill of it.

    Yes, back then I was young, inexperienced, and feared nothing!

    It so happened that the first time was with a wing, and the second time without. As I have shared earlier in the thread I used that particular car with and without.

    The first time with the wing felt great, but the car eased its way up to top speed slowly over a couple of miles.

    The second time without the wing was positively frightening. The car seemed to get to top speed rather quickly, but over 150mph it started to 'wander'. I recall having to make small steering inputs, and I can tell you that over 150 mph you do not want to have to do this! It was a struggle keeping it in one lane, and I was relived to back off after a while.

    Long story short, if you want stability over 150mph in a Countach, you need the wing. Below 100 mph its effectively for looks only.

    Only you can decide what's best for you, but that's my Countach DD high-speed experiences in a nutshell. I can tell you I won't be repeating them, so I tip my hat to you sir for your upcoming adventure!

    For looks, I lean towards the way Harry's car (below) used to be - wingless. Maybe I'm getting old!
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  5. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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  8. paul328

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    Thanks for that. I notice in my car that it tends to 'hunker down' above 130mph and feels very stable and secure. I have driven it 130 plus more often and cruised a bit at that speed. I have only ever noticed any wander when there are very strong cross winds.

    I believe Harry has driven his car more regularly at very high speed and he may have a view, as his car originally had a wing.

    I would prefer stability to outright speed. In the old days I used to drive very quickly, but much less so now due to many reasons. Back then I was over 130mph at least every other day.

    We are all getting older not just the cars!

    Input appreiated.

    Regards

    Paul
     
  9. jb21

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    #3684 jb21, Aug 12, 2016
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    Robert, that is a very kind offer. Many thanks. PM on its way...
     
  10. joe sackey

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    #3685 joe sackey, Aug 12, 2016
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    Coming down to interior details, I spent some time getting the shift-knob to match the as-new condition of the steering wheel.

    Of course, when driving the car the interior components are what you're looking at, so their condition makes a difference.

    Here is a good-looking knob IMHO...
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    #3696 joe sackey, Aug 13, 2016
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    Paul,

    The thing we all have to remember is that these are 30-year-old cars.

    They don't brake and handle like the contemporary everyday cars we drive. My everyday car is a 991 GT3 which would run circles around a Countach Downdraft in every performance category imaginable. With that in mind, I can only advise driving well within one's limits! Its all about enjoying the drive and the sound these days. Perhaps some spirited driving here & there, but, personally, I will not try and be a hero.

    Speaking of the old days, I have no idea how I got away with some of the things I did!

    In fact, not a minute after this image below was taken, the entire test-session at the old Goodwood in which I was participating was black-flagged as I found the limits of adherence of my P7s, resulting in a 90 mph lurid 360 degree spin punctuated by clouds of blue tire-smoke at St Marys corner. How I kept the (stalled) car on the track I don't know, but it was a "Dear God" moment. The point is, these days I have no desire to find limits! :D

    Be careful out there guys..
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  21. mt_jt

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    That's a track. Testing limits on public roads is not good, and I'm sure no one on this forum is that silly.
    Also, Joe - your detail photos are a treasure trove for scale modellers and collectors. There are certainly many books and older grainy photos available but even your smartphone photos are infinitely better. Your restoration photos are very much appreciated.
     
  22. jb21

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  24. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    Thank you for your kind words, I'm all about sharing wherever I can.
     

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