SCUD pricing guide

I track my car and wouldn't avoid a scud that has been on the track. After all, it was made for it.

That said, track miles are, without a doubt, harder miles. Higher rpms means more stress/wear on the engine. Continually shifting at the redline means more stress/wear on the transmission. High cornering speeds mean more stress/wear on the suspension. Etc. etc.

 

I don't share that opinion. The engine is working at its best on the higher RPMs (not the redline, I doubt everyone is shifting on 9000). This is exactly why it has been made with bigger clearance. The suspension for sure suffers much more on the road bumps, when the stress on it is instant and much more violent, than the load during hard cornering. If you drive with about 60 miles per hour and the road is twisty and bumpy (like almost everywhere in Europe), I think this will be much more stressful for the shocks and all the suspension elements, than the hard cornering on a circuit with a perfect tarmac. As for the shifting - with 60 milliseconds shifts, I think the clutch is having absolutely no stress at all, compared to the stays on traffic lights and especially during drive offs. The gearbox is exactly made for high RPM shiftings and again - I am not talking about the redline - at least I am never shifting at the redline when being on the track. I shift at about 7500-8000 RPM and I think many of the other Scud owners are doing the same.

 

Put it this way, my Ferrari mechanic could tell that I track my car from the metal shavings in the transmission fluid, which he said was normal for tracked cars. Tracking is absolutely harder on the car and wears the components more. This is just logic.

 

Hmmm. I shift close to redline at the track. There are also cases where you might stretch a gear all the way rather than up shifting. Fluid temps also run much higher at the track. Shouldn't be an issue though w quality fluids and regular maintenance.

Really depends on the driver as to how much stress. For instance an unskilled driver with the car in sport will put a lot more stress on the ediff and brakes than a skilled driver in the same mode or w no nannies at all. The system doesn't really indicate when it is kicking in either so it's up to the driver identify the intervention and correct.

 

I redline all the time on the road lol

 

Best noise is the last 500rpm ; )

 

Until it goes KABOOM!

 

Everything happens at higher speeds and higher forces on the track. You accelerate harder, corner harder, brake harder, shift later, etc., than you would on the road, regardless of your skill level or mannetino setting. This translates into greater wear and tear on the mechanisms that are being subjected to the higher speeds/forces. You might approach the same speeds/forces every once and a while on the road, but not through every gear and every lap as on the track. Again, I support track driving, but you're kidding yourself if you think it is not harder on the car than driving around town.

 

The key is a technology-friendly handling and usage, no matter if on the track or around a town.

For example a moderate warm up and cool down procedure is essential for the life expectancy of a machine, stop and go in the city is even worse for the clutch as a few rounds on the track, a long delayed braking when cruising with poor cooling kills the brake system much more than a short intense braking on the track, driving around with no more than 3000 rpm kills the valves in the long run for sure.

Yes, I've seen the most idiotic situations with the most idiotic owners. Therefore, there are Ferraris which were never on the track but I wouldn't buy them anyway!

 

I read somewhere the more your redline, the higher scud values go...not sure if true but like wearing mismatching socks for luck, there's no harm in trying...

 

You're showing what the best the car can do, I would vouch for that.


No offense, but I am sorry for those owners who have not even driven their SCUDs in the track. I mean, if you experienced tracking it and hearing the engine at 8000 RPM, you will tell yourself,

"the Hell about resale. They can have it when I am done!"

Before you go on the next one, track the sheeeet out of it.

Whats the worst can it do, less $5000 on resale or trade? Worth every penny.

 

Well I'll have a great story then ; )

 

But, but you cashed out, and left the wolf pack!? Has the Speciale been able to fill the void?

 

Would love to have both.......

 

I sold my Coupe SCUD, but have not left the wolf pack. I will leave it at this for now.

The Speciale is a proper Ferrari that will satisfy anyone who wants a Special track car.
It is better in everyway, whether SCUD people admit it or not.

I would love to have a SCUD but my money is on a 16M. Hopefully very soon. I just need to sign the papers.

 

Wise choice! You will absolutely love the open top, exhilarating sound. Add an S line exhaust and it's the closest F1 sound ...you'll feel like you are racing in Monaco through tunnels.

 

For those of you getting that super high pitched F1 sound out of an S-line, are you just changing the "catback" or headers and high flow cats too? I did an aftermarket exhaust in my old Stradale and swore I'd never do aftermarket on a Ferrari again (headers cracked and the O2 bung on the catless pipes broke off).

 

I'm not a fan of aftermarket stuff either, but the S-line makes a world of improvement and was probably some of the best money I've ever spent. It's a high quality (made in USA) product thats just good, if not better, than anything OEM.

You can just do the catback portion and still get the high pitch sound. The weight savings is also another huge benefit. Headers/cats are nice too but not completely necessary unless you want more volume.

 

16M is definitely the last of the breed. No more Pininfarina. No more F1 single-clutch gearbox.

A lot of cars are better than a CS, Scuderia, 599GTO etc but they are the last of a breed, cut from a different cloth, one very different than that of a Speciale, whether non-scud/16M owners admit it or not

IMHO, if you want a true track special, a Porsche Rs or McLaren LT is the way to go:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuO8qeHB8BU[/ame]

 

Wanted to get an idea of current scud value for insurance purposes. Went to Autotrader to see what the current asking prices are like. There were over 30 scuds for sale on the site, which is a significant increase over last time I looked maybe a year ago. Also, the average asking price was a lot higher: $257,000. The last time I calculated the average asking price, maybe a year and a half ago, the average was $185,000. Car market may be cooling down, but scud asking prices remain strong.

 

Well, asking prices remain strong. To me it looks like everyone selling is still holding on to top of the market prices and nothing seems to be selling.

 

It's the same for all the cars that have run up; more than usual for sale CS, 550, 575, 3x8, etc. owners listing them at aspirational prices given the run up. Not many selling. Some asking prices coming down.

 

This is pretty reasonable:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/520174-2009-scuderia-21k-miles-%24195k.html

 

21,000 happy miles.

 

Some people like to throw their money for low mileage cars and then live in fear, that they will lower the value of their car if they drive it. And for other people, the mileage is just a not very important number on the dash.