very rare models (all scale) | Page 39 | FerrariChat

very rare models (all scale)

Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by Vector-France, Aug 15, 2006.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Lussolover

    Lussolover Karting

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    219
    Still looking for a bbr lusso myself!
     
  2. HAj3

    HAj3 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2016
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Tempe, AZ
  3. HAj3

    HAj3 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2016
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Tempe, AZ
  4. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    I don't like bbr... they make loads of different limited editions of the same car.. in essence its not limited at all, allthough the models itself are nice
     
  5. stevenwk

    stevenwk F1 Veteran Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,525
    Location:
    Metro Detroit/Encino
    Full Name:
    Steven
    I bought both of these new over 20 years ago. I will seldom see them for sale, and if they do come up for sale, almost always red, yellow or sometimes blue.

    Are 33b and 33c uncommon/rare?[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  6. Julius H.

    Julius H. Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Julius
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  7. Julius H.

    Julius H. Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Julius
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  8. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Messages:
    7,308
    Very beautiful. Fantastic!


    Nice..
     
  9. Julius H.

    Julius H. Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Julius
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  10. tomgt

    tomgt F1 Veteran Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    7,209
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Tom Wiggers
    I agree
    Amalgam is same but large scale.
    Made in China and Romania.

    Models are nice but looking at prices (Amalgam) I would go for a De Conto!
     
  11. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    absolutely!

    www.minidelta.be
     
  12. Lusso123

    Lusso123 Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,793
    Location:
    NY
    Full Name:
    Marshall Buck

    I agree with both you and with Hans.
     
  13. Lusso123

    Lusso123 Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,793
    Location:
    NY
    Full Name:
    Marshall Buck
    It's not the best model, but was great for its day, and I am still very happy with it.

    This is a Renaissance factory built California. They also produced this in limited kit form, but the kits did NOT come with any leather and carpets. Those extra items were reserved only for the factory hand builts. It was made in France and produced in 1991, which is when I bought it. It's the first 1:24 scale edition that they made. Plans were for a big run, but they did not sell well, and so the run was cut very short, a total of 109 were built, and that was split across 5 different colors, with different color interiors too. It was an expensive model back then at around $600. which today with inflation in 2016 Dollars is equal to $1,060.00. But back in those days, there were numerous models from various European and American model specialists that were in that price range back then. Some were less and some were more. Even very many of the really special 1:43 hand built models were in the $150 to $300 range, and again many were more expensive than that. So I always find it a little funny when so many people complain these days about the cost of various Chinese made resin models, most of which cost a lot less today, especially when compared to what many of us used to buy.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  14. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    Love it Marshall! Its not the scale I collect but a very unique piece!

    a price is a number in time.. It depends on different things.

    I am not into Amalgam or BBR and similar Chinese models. They lack a certain feel of exclusivity and artisanal skills.
    To clean, to uniform and perfect.. Like the were made by a machine.

    I don't believe they will be as collectable as f.i. a modell made by a master modelbuilder.
    The name and reputation of the builder make a piece special. A brand, however good does not have the same appeal.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2016
  15. Julius H.

    Julius H. Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Julius
    Does MG Model still producing?
     
  16. Julius H.

    Julius H. Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2013
    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Europe
    Full Name:
    Julius
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  17. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,026
    Location:
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    Very nice Marshall, like Hans said, really looks like an artisan made it.....for sure a very special piece!
     
  18. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    MG = Atelier cars
     
  19. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  20. minidelta

    minidelta Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    21
    Location:
    Belgium
    Full Name:
    Patrick Badot
    Marshall, do you remember the Climax Junior 1/24th 275 GTBs competizione I did for you in the nineties, you featured one in Vintage Motorsport,they were expensive kits but delivered very nice models. The master of those models were made by hand by truly capable craftsman, weren't they?
     
  21. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  22. Lusso123

    Lusso123 Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,793
    Location:
    NY
    Full Name:
    Marshall Buck
    Thanks Hans, and that Barnett model is fantastic - it looks like it is one of his best pieces.

    I agree with you about the Chinese made models vs. models made by specialists, but I do also collect some of those mass market pieces of some cars I really wanted larger models of, and others (i.e. 1:43 Spark GT40 models) that I just did not want to spend a lot on. I guess you have to take the good with the bad to some extent.

    Pricing I am well aware has so many variables, but back in the 1980s - 1990s before the Chinese started cranking out decent models like sausages, the prices for good to great 1:24 and larger hand builts was comparably higher than prices today when you factor in labor wages and inflation and values, etc.
     
  23. Lusso123

    Lusso123 Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,793
    Location:
    NY
    Full Name:
    Marshall Buck
    Patrick, always good to hear from you. Yes, I do remember that kit, and the build you did, and of course featuring it in Vintage Motorsport. The build work you did still rates as one of the best builds, in fact all of your built models have always been excellent. And yes, the masters made for kits like that one were certainly made by capable craftsmen with an excellent eye more making models look good.

    As I'm sure you know, that Climax kit was also reissued by MFH after they acquired all the Climax patterns.
     
  24. davemqv

    davemqv F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2014
    Messages:
    3,167
    Location:
    USA
    Full Name:
    Dave
    Can I ask where you got the 365 GT2+2 model?

    I've been looking for one of those! Very cool!!
     
  25. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,330
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Hans
    made by Jacques brauer in 1991, its based on a white-metal kit and one off.
    Had the chance to buy it from an english collector that had it built new.

    Brauer models are extremely rare and mostly built to order.
    The man is an artist. He is one of the very best in 1:43.

    jbrauerwol.com accueil
     

Share This Page