Ferrari is always my dream and this year dream came true cause I bought a 488 GTB. I was very excited when I first picked up my first 488 back in May this year. However, a month later, when I went to test the performance #s of my 488 gtb using P-box, I was truly disappointed. The results was 0-100 3.7s/ 100-200 7.1s, with launch and no tire spin, summer time 30+degrees. My friend's mp4 12c(626hp) did 6.1s from 100-200 same date, same place, same p-box. Obviously I was not happy about the resutls, so I went to the dealer few times due to this issue. So the dealer did a gearbox autolearn for me, and the car is a bit faster than before. I re-tested the performance on this car, 0-100 3.5s with launch, no tire spin, 100-200 is around 6.9-7.1s on average. The best result is 6.7 but it's a bit downhill. 30+ degree as well. I am a bit happier after the gearbox autolearn, however it's still very far from the factory claimed #s which are 0-100 3s/ 100-200 5.3s. A lot of people were saying my car is too young and the tempeture is too hot and the gas is poor in China. So now in October, it's around 20 degrees outside, the car has almost 5000kms on it, I also bought VP racing octane concentrate. I did a test last night, 100-200 is 6.8s on the same place. Yes, it's faster in colder tempetrue, but no suprise. I gather some videos on youtube, and timed their 488's 100-200 result. The fastest 488 is @ the Fiorano Test Track, did around 5.3s from 100-200, here is the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxpzDbaIgig The 488 GTB tested by SPORTAUTO, did around 5.4s from 100-200, which is still really fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzyOxnEOwec I assume those two cars above are "PRESS CARS" which is faster than what customer's can get. Below, are some other results. A friend from India (www.instagram.com/ranjitsundaramurthy) did 100-200 test, the result is 5.9s (timed from video), and his car was a dealer demo, stock with exhuast, no tune yet. And his friend from Dubai also has a 488 GTB, the result is 6.5s (timed from video he sent me) My car, which is the slowest, 100-200 time is 6.8s (p-box) I also fount some tuned 488 gtb did around 6s(timed from video) from 100-200 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88uPqogpBVY So I was wondering why cusomter cars are SLOWER??? I did a lot of researh and tried to find the reason. What I found is a article about Chris Harris got banned from Ferrari few years back. Just because Harris accused Ferrari of optimising test cars so they did well in magazine performance tests. Here is the link to the aritle: https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/top-gears-chris-harris-banned-driving-ferraris So,,,, at this point, should I just get a tune to make it faster??? There is nothing else dealer can do to my car, they said this is normal. "Like, what the f**k?" I buy this car for it's perfomance not only because it looks fancy. Other than the power I was dissappointed at, it handles really well on track, no turbo lag, brakes are great, cooling is also good. I will post a video below that I went to STC @ Shanghai in this summer. And I did 1m10.231s, which is considered as "fast". If my 488 is faster at the straight, it can be even fast. This video is on Chinese "youtube" [???]160821?????-?? 488GTB?????????????????????? In the end, if any owner can tell me what's their 488 gtb's performance #s like? Or what I can do to make it a bit faster? Thanks.
Just found in this video, the turbo pressure goes up to 1.1 bar for the press car. I remember my car only goes up to 0.8bar or 1bar. but defenitly not 1.1 bar. I will confirm this ASAP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxpzDbaIgig
You have to remember the 12C has the weight advantage with the carbon tub. You are talking 3100 to 3000 depending on light weight options on the Mac. I own a 650S and have had a 12C? The are light with that carbon tub. Saying that I LOVE Ferrari. There is nothing like the feel of a Ferrari. I think once your 488 breaks in, it should be a bit faster.
Did you see the other thread with CPIGUY, whose 488 is extremely quick? Also, there are different fuel grades for different countries, different atmospheric conditions etc. Turbo cars will be tuned slightly differently depending on the local conditions because, for instance, low quality fuel can play havoc with high performance engines. In the UK, I drove a 488 spider from the dealer and it was extremely fast - significantly faster than a 12C I owned and my Speciale. I tracked a number of 488s with the pilota course in Fiorano. Again very quick. These cars are farmed out to a supplier who manages the programme and they are standard. They felt very similar to the UK car I drove and were also quick. I haven't driven any press cars but the cars I have driven all felt quick enough to meet the Ferrari claims.
http://youtu.be/QZXEiviHXLs Go here to watch mine launch its under 6 seconds id even say very close to 5 seconds 100-200.
As said before. If in doubt, take it to a shop and put it on a dyno. If it's far below what it is supposed to be, ask your dealer for a refund, or a new ecu.
Yugi, I have been following your story since you first posted. It seems like the poorest performing cars (you and your friends) are all in emerging markets. That's the only common denominator I've found. Perhaps Ferrari sends less powerful cars to the emerging markets for some government dictated reason.
f430kernic, I'd be curious to know what makes you think his car (or any car) will become faster after it is broken in.
In my experience once the engine has been broken and has some miles. The car is a bit faster then when green. Not a huge difference, but a little.
I've heard that the first series of 488s was significantly stronger than the claimed 670 hp, i.e. 700+ hp... I suppose that means the 488s delivered in 2015. Mine is one of them
I have a Ferrari North Europe 458 Italia Press Car. It says "Press Car" on the Modis build sheet. I have not been able to ascertain if this actually means anything in production. The obvious things are that every carbon fibre option (engine bay, underside and interior) + titanium bolts were optioned (I presume for weight saving) plus a triple layer paint (Rosso Fucco). The car featured in a back to back test against a McLaren 12C on 5th Gear in the UK.
I would say put it on a dyno to see if it is putting down what it should, if it is not, I would take it to the dealer and demand a new one.
I had a chance to talk with a UK techician who work for Ferrari, he is also responsible for Laferrari's in China, he told me that different markets do have different ECU software. He acutlly said the ECU for China are the same as for Europe and it should be faster than North Ameriaca.
Do you mind to share with me your VIN nunmber? I think last 6 number is good enough. and what month was your car built? I want to ask my dealer to falsh my engine and gearbox software version the same as yours if possiable. Thank you very much!
Is that the same 488 You posted a comparo Video on the McLaren Forum? Seemed to be a lot slower on that Video.
When you drive familiar roads in both cars, what feels quick is quick - it is not just a question of 'feeling'. I used that word in the previous post because I cannot say its 0-100 or 0-200 performance is x against the y of another car, I haven't measured it. Approaching the same familiar bends at noticeably higher speeds than with another car means to me that what feels quick really is quick. The 488 I drove was much quicker than the 12C I owned and the Speciale I own on roads around my home - to a degree that suggests the claimed performance differences seem correct. That's all I'm saying. Combine that with most owners findings and it seems more likely that there is an issue with your car rather than Ferrari are over claiming their performance. It is also much quicker around Fiorano than the F12, despite what the official stats say. I have measured times with me as a driver (so should be consistent) for both those vehicles. 488 is a very quick car and should feel that way or something isn't right. However, calibration for certain markets might be different, as I mentioned before and someone else just did, because of lots of factors - especially fuel quality which in China is extremely poor, for instance. If you calibrate your car to a European or American market spec, you may well risk engine damage and invalidate your warranty. Quite risky in my view, unless you know exactly what you're doing. If that is the answer, I can't believe Ferrari will have de-calibrated for anything other than good reason.
