QV with no front louver

Hi all,

Have you guys seen a QV with no front louver?

https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/ferrari-308-gts-quattrovalvole-gasoline-red-bc0a613f-37b9-3241-e053-e350040a71c5

year and engine seems a QV, but no front louver..

 

Changed the hood, maybe someone tried to close it without releasing the button and bent the hell out of it or the front of the car was crushed and that is how it was repaired.

 

Probably was replaced at some point due to maybe a damage or accident on the original QV hood.

 

It's a real QV alright.

I am close to swapping hoods. That will make two 84's with non louvered hoods out there

 

agree, but seems funy one wouldnt find a proped QV hood (alhtough I guess a few years ago when these were worth much less, people probably wouldnt care as much)

 

Correct, been replaced at some stage. Check the paint, would have had it resprayed on the front for sure.

 

49745 is on both Wade's QV register and F-Register as a GTS QV.

Why change the hood, I thought the additional ventilation helps with cooling as well? LHD hoods are not that difficult to acquire.

 

As already stated, because it was more than likely damaged whilst being shut.

Perhaps......

.....whoever replaced the hood found a non-louvred hood for a lot less money than louvred hoods.

......whoever replaced the hood ordered the wrong part and couldn't be arsed to get it changed.

......whoever replaced the hood/the cars owner simply preferred the non-louvred look and didn't car about originality (Believe it or not, there are some people who are not that bothered about originality!)

 

it has US bumpers too... but Euro blinkers and lights

 

The add says accident free. It looks like a nice QV example otherwise.
I find it strange that the photographer couldn't be bothered to remove the crap from the passenger seat.

 

Chassis number with eighth "digit" as B confirms it is a euro spec car. Also for sale in Italy although plenty of US spec cars in Europe.

 

^me and mine.

I bought a non louvered hood years back and it is sitting primed and ready to go in the paint shop at the moment.

I wanted to work out the hot running issues before I put it on. I have the big aluminum radiator. The only thing stopping me at the moment is being too lazy to start the fan upgrade/fan shroud project.

I have a Ferrari temp spare (smaller) and I have a few ideas about buying a used spare wheel tub, cutting the front off and repairing it with fiberglass so the smaller spare can sit back a bit and give me room for the fan to mount on the inside and pull like on a 328.

 

exactly. that's why i thought it was a bit messy overall really

 

The engine cover vents are European, as are the front sidelights and door mirrors, and next to the chassis plate there's an importers plate showing it to be originally a car for the French market, so the US-spec bumpers are a bit of a mystery! (More so than the non-louvred front lid!)

The details from the advert translate (via Google translate) as:

FULLY RESTORED
PERFECT BODY
PERFECT INTERIOR
RECENTLY, REBUILT THE GEARBOX, THE BELTS REPLACED WITH WATER PUMP AND BEARING,
REPLACED THE STARTER, CANDLES FLUIDS AND FILTERS.

It's always good to see the candles replaced on a restored 308! ( I assume they mean they've replaced the lights on the car)

When it comes to lack of louvres and cooling, TBH, I doubt the additional cooling is that important in Europe (in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the louvres cause more issues with rain water getting into places you don't want it in Europe!)

Personally speaking, if I were going to change anything on that car during a restoration or ownership then it would be the US-spec bumpers (I'd dump them if I lived in the USA too - As I've started many times before, as far as I'm concerned they absolutely ruin the delicate design of the 308!)

 

I think its an issue with the translate - think candles are the spark plugs (in french the word is candle, I believe)

and absolutely agreed on the bumpers..

 

I'm not seeing it right or is the bottom seat pattern backwards on one of the seats.

 

Yes you're right, the driver seat is definitely backward.

 

good catch! I didnt notice
there goes the great renovation works

 

There you go - the bags are actually there for a reason..
I hate when sellers try to fool us

 

(by the way - they state the car as 235hp, which should be US version)

 

the driver seat must be redone as it has the wrong pattern, so you have to do both seats to have the same leather. The front lid must be changed and you have to learn why they changed it: I would guess a big front hit that damaged the lid too. Same for the bumpers. they are USA.

That car looks to be a big mess and probably (my guess) repaired after a crash with the pieces they found here at low cost (USA bumpers as here they are unsoldable, and an old 208 NA lid).

Better to learn when they did the body respray, as if it's young and done like the other fixings, maybe you will have problems later with the paint.

On the contrary engine bay doesn't look bad, but better check in person: this particular one is a kind of car that needs to be inspected very well everywhere , with particular attention to the front bay and drivers' cabin (also cabin's carpets have something strange at my eyes).

If you are enough expert and carefully inspect it, the car speaks to you and tells everything.

Just my guess, of course

ciao

 

"Spark plug" translate as "bougie" in French, which means "candle" indeed.

Rgds

 

+1

The carpets look strange but not original.
Looks like the interior was redone by someone who was NOT a specialist ...

 

+1
My guess too. And the bag placed there to hide a problem, is not a good thing at all.

ciao

 

Ah! - Further investigation reveals that you are spot on (kind of!)

The original advert is in Italian and it turns out that, similar to French, the Italian for "The spark plugs" is: le candele, as stated in the advert. (That's taught Me something I didn't know! ).


The more you look at this car, the more you realise that there's a bigger story to it than first appears!