What do you think constitutes high mileage?

I say 100k for modern any modern Ferrari. Technology and new materials have increased longevity IMHO.


For other brands I don't consider anything between 100-150k to be high either. My girls Audi has 220k runs perfect never stranded her 3.0 and Quatro to boot, my Silverado is approaching 270k, I beat the S*** out of it too, it's 4wd and always has a 500lb load in the bed. Every day. I've only replace the rear differential alternator and starter and I have put 100 + thousand miles on it myself. I just hit 110k on my BMW e63 6 series, again in 5 years of ownership I've never had one single issue aside from brakes & tires and the convertible top latch motor. Still on the original clutch too and I drive it hard!

Now my Escalade had 80k miles and I've been thru 2 transmissions in as many years :eek it is a 6.0 AWD and was supercharged though. (Blower came off with the last tranny rebuild)

 

This 100%

 

I have 33K on my 430 in 9 years. I have 123K on my 06 M5 and 133K on 06 Escalade. Everything is running great. No reason to replace them. I have a friend with 3 Ferraris that he bought new. 308 with over 200K miles, 348 with 170K and a 430 with over 100K and about 20K were on the track (He did have to rebuild the motor)

 

Why aren't Lambos consider high miles at 10k+ like Ferraris ?

 

No way!! I'm at 60k so I feel encouraged.

 

Over 30k miles seems on the higher side. Truly high mileage to me is over 60k

 

43K on my 360 and it is amazing! To nice of a ride to just let it sit. Cant wait to get my hands on a 430...

 

wait...after 10k miles you're not supposed to let them sit and rot??

 

Lemme see if I understand this logic here...

Buy a good used specimen for $80k

Let it sit for a few years and maybe put 1k miles on it

Spend $25k in replacing belts, seals, etc. that has started to rot away because the car has sat for so long.

Sell it for $100k.

YAY! Profit!

Never enjoy the car besides letting people know you own it

Do I have it right?

 

Absolutely correct. It's laughable how many low mileage cars are out there. If one is not going to drive the car buy a poster of it instead. Takes up a lot less room. I brought my 360 spider gated at Cavallino in Palm Beach Florida for the Concours. There was a guy next to me with a very low mileage 360 right next to me. He lives in Florida not 2 hours away and had the car trailered to the event! Guess who got First in Class Platinum. Mine did, not only because of my OCD and the original condition of the car, but because the judges knew I drove the car. I even forgot to take the EZ pass toll plate off the windshield. These cars perform much better when driven. Period.

 

61,141 on mine as of this last weekend. Runs awesome.

I'd say for a weekend car like a 360 as more people transition into it.. 40k is high miles. As we get into 20 to 25 years it bumps up to 50 and 60k. IMHO

 

As of Sunday , I have 117,121 ...





Kilometres as mine is early import Euro model

 

High milage for me is anything over 12,000/yr. That would likely indicate a commuter or a track vehicle to me. Commuter vehicles are typically viewed as a appliance and track vehicles are disposable toys. Neither of these categories generally get much love and attention to detail and absolute care both mechanically and cosmetically.

That being said, lots of great insight above about milege not being a great indicator of actual quality of the vehicle and that most modern F cars can handle plenty of typical road driving.

 

I am looking at a F430 with less than 5,000 miles. I am concerned about it not being driven enough and the maintenance issues it could have once I start driving it. Do you think these are low enough miles to beware of possible issues?

 

Couldn't agree more.

If you are a driver rather than investor, and therefore in my mind have bought the car for the right reason, then there is a minimum mileage you need to do each year to actually get to grips with the car. Any less and you're not at one with it, can't push and explore its capabilities.

I compete with my car in Hillclimbing and drive it much better on the way home than on the way there - driving it hard brings out what it was built for.

Its now done 60,000, in 14 years: 4,500/year - that's not high usage in my book. A customer has had a 360 since new, its his daily driver and well over 120,000m now, still drives like a dream. Which he gets to enjoy every day. What could beat that when you snuff it?

 

It does depend when it did the miles - if most of them in the last couple of years it may well be OK, but if its sat for years, you'll need to spend a lot on it now/soon replacing seals, belts, tyres etc.
Having paid a collectors-level premium for the car, if you plan to do a few hundred a year then you'll retain its value, but if you want one to drive, you will lose a lot less money buying one with 20 or 30k on it.

 

This! I'm new to the forum, currently doing my research before buying my fist Fcar, I'm still debating between a F430 or a 360 right now but I would prefer to buy a car with "higher" mileage than normal but that has been serviced properly throughout it's life. Specially since I want to buy the car to drive and not worry about value too much.

 

I for one do not believe all the 10k mike cars out there. I think they turn the odometers off. Look at condition these cars are strong.. there is no way they can look in the poor condition some of them are with 10-15k on them.

 

I agree with you. I know one guy with a Stradale who almost certainly does this - whenever he has a problem with the car I always ask him about the mileage to get some idea of where we are mechanically but he won't tell me and just avoids the question. Personally I think it's a little sad and only serves to bolster the whole "keep the miles off it" situation but I'm sure it goes on.

The only caveat to watch for is seat wear - remember an older car with even a few miles might have been moved around in and out of garages, sat in for fun etc - so it's not uncommon to see the drivers bolster more worn than you would expect.

 

Disagree with this^ My F355 is 22 years old and has 13k miles. Not a single problem.

Sitting untouched for a decade is one thing, but a dozen 50 mile drives in a year isn't going to result in a car that has a lot of problems due to low mileage.

 

360 with less than 100,000 miles is not considered high miles for a buyer that is looking for a car to drive, put a lot more miles and enjoy. But for somebody who wants to invest and hope that it will increase or maintain value then 40,000 and above is high miles for them.

Everyone to it's own.