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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bertocchi, Jan 14, 2006.

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  1. Aardy

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    Sorry, I'm not 100 % sure the P2 is really 0838 but you may be right after all...
     
  2. tongascrew

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    Ardy, do you know anyone at Revs.? I am looking into the future and am looking for some place that might be interested in my collection "Ferrari- The Golden Years 1947-1967". The book collection of over 280 volumes which includes all original Ferrari Year books from 1951-1966,Time and Two Seats, Making a Difference,Origines of the Ferrari Legend, Open Roads and Front Engines. Klementansky and Ferrari,etc etc, plus complete issues of Cavallino and Forza and a collection of over 460 manuals, blueprints, posters, 791 FMLs going back to 1976 etc. There are also 1142 individual files on a selection of important Ferrari s/ns from 01C thru the P series competition cars and a collection of over 400 images.The only museum I have not been able to get an answer from is Revs.There is still a great deal of work to do to bring this collection up to date but Revs is the only one I have not heard back from.All this has a lot of work yet to do before it is ready for a new home some day. Money is not an issue.All this can be considered as research over the past 16 years and is collected from many sources including F chat, Barchetta pages etc and has been all printed out on paper much of which I am finding is no longer on the internet.Any ideas Thanks George Burgess "tonga's crew
     
  3. Aardy

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    Sorry, I don't know anyone at Revs. Good luck in continuing your great project anyway !
     
  4. TTR

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    This mirror appears to have different stand and mounting location than those shown in posts #9721 & -2, not to mention the amount of cluster mounted switches and other detail variations...
     
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  6. EnzoNZ

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    Hi Cyril - I'm not asserting that the bare prototipo is 0838 based on the mirror. My assertion is that the shots of the car from Daytona in 1966 (Posts 9721 and 9722) are 0838 based on the placement of the mirror of all of the P cars at the race.
     
  7. EnzoNZ

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    PM me your email address and I will put you in contact with one of the Collection Coordinators.
     
  8. Aardy

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    #9733 Aardy, Nov 29, 2016
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    OK Andrew. But the windscreen on post #9710 is absolutely not the same. Do you agree ??
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  9. Aardy

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    #9734 Aardy, Nov 29, 2016
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    I'm now convinced the pic of the post #9710 show Monza in 1965.

    The car in the background looks like to the Maranello Concessionaires's 330 P-64 #67.

    I think the P2 is one of the Scuderia Ferrari's car. Why not the winning 275 P2 #63 ??
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  10. miurasv

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    It can't be the winning 275 P2 as it had a 4 cam engine.
     
  11. EnzoNZ

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    #9736 EnzoNZ, Nov 29, 2016
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    Yes, agree. 0838 at Daytona had 3 vertical support struts for the windscreen that are not in the photo in post 9710. The photo in post 9722 is confirmed as 1966 and without knowing what year the photo in post 9710 is from it is hard to state if they are the same car. Both have 2-cam engines and most features match(except windscreen). They could be the same car with modifications between photos.
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  12. miurasv

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    #9737 miurasv, Nov 29, 2016
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    In case anyone didn't know, in 1965 the Prototype cars had to race with the high windscreen in the European races to conform to the European regulations.
     
  13. intrepidcva11

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    Andrew and Steve,

    I was going to write that it was not unusual to change windscreens - an easy do - to comply with varying regs.
     
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    Tonga-George,

    If you are looking for a home and not anticipating selling, I was going to suggest the Saratoga Automobile Museum, of which I am a founding officer and trustee. We have a growing collection of automobilia, memorabilia and publications. But it seems your collection needs a home, preferably a library available to a large public, with a Ferrari focus.
     
  15. tongascrew

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    I can't locate anyone either, They seem to have a "superior attitude" and 99% of their images are nothing to get excited about. My project has become " much greater" than originally expected. I get each day off with F Chat and the updating the 1142 s/n files and doing the "book reviews"It's interesting how so much info on the original "barchetta" sites is no longer on the internet.I often get the question "why not put everything in a cloud somewhere.Well I am glad I started with paper. Bulky but at least I have the best of it going back to 2006/7. What a way to spend the time when one is not terribly healthy and elderly. Thanks for your continued support. tonga's crew.
     
  16. tongascrew

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    [email protected]. I am not familiar with this group.Thanks much. tonga's crew George Burgess.
     
  17. tongascrew

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    Hi thanks for your reply.Just remember Watkins Glen and Riverside and Lime Rock which are out in the middle of no where with substantial research museums. Keep in touch.The day will come, though not for a while, when this collection will need a new home and money will never be a major issue. You can reach me at tongascrew @ aol.com any time. Keep an eye on the "brief book reviews" in the F Chat Vintage section. They are all part of the collection.Thanks tonga's crew George Burgess
     
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    Please find contact info for VIZSLA, David W., here on FChat. He's a docent at Revs and should be able to help you, George.
     
  19. Bertocchi

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    #9744 Bertocchi, Dec 12, 2016
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    Sebring 1963. I am waiting on a new scanner and have some real great photos to share. My previous posts are appearing everywhere.
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  20. Bertocchi

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    Don't know why this was rotated?
     
  21. El Wayne

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    Fixed it for you.

    This happens when an image is captured and stored sideways on your camera, phone, computer, etc. Your other devices are "smart" enough to automatically rotate the image before displaying it, leaving you with no way of knowing the image is sideways. Since vBulletin doesn't have automatic image orientation capability, the image is displayed here in its true orientation. This used to only be a problem for people posting images from their iPhones, but automatic image orientation has become more common in other devices and is a feature of most online photo sharing platforms (Facebook, Flickr, Pinterest, etc.). vBulletin just needs to get with the times.
     
  22. Bertocchi

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    Thank you. A while back I was told that the driver's side of these windscreen were glass while the passengers were plexi.
     
  23. Bertocchi

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    #9748 Bertocchi, Dec 13, 2016
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    On most occasions Luigi Chinetti, Sr. was happy to have his longtime sales manager and friend Ivo Brillo chauffer him around Greenwich, CT.
    Ed Jurist, of the Vintage Car Store, had acquired a 375 Plus in Argentina and was offering it for sale. To promote the car he arranged for Maurice Trintignant to be at Lime Rock Park for the Vintage Festival. Chinetti asked me to serve as his chauffer since Ivo was unfamiliar with the route to the Connecticut race track.
    I had a very memorable day as a "Fly on the wall". Met Jurist, Trintignant, Rene Dreyfus, Jay Giles, and Malcolm (the long time flag man at Lime Rock).
    Jay owned a 250TDF Maurice had raced. The 375 Plus was sold that evening to Ralph Lauren and still sits in his collection
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