and just to put the auction prices in perspective, this Ghibli went for the same price as 032! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hello Lucas and welcome Unless I am confusing you with another Lucas, how is your blue beauty? I was just looking at the website of Franco Tralli in Bomporto near Modena, a very good classic Maserati workshop (and he happens to be the brother in law of Giuseppe Candini owner of the other shop, which is in Modena itself) and I saw he has a very good parts index with quite a bit of information so here it is. I dont know why it says Ghibli spyder but the link is the correct one for Khamsin bits. Parti di ricambio - MASERATI GHIBLI SPYDER 115/S I don't think he speaks English but might be able to communicate if questions are asked in a simple manner. Exciting week ahead with two Khamsin inspections for a client Confidential for now of course but will post photos mid December after he makes his choice. A good weekend to all, Marc
Hi Richard, As an experienced translator myself I would advise caution with Google translate, it is a bit of a joke: just try typing in a sentence of medium complexity, have it translated into another language (any language) then copy and paste that for translation back to English...what you will read -which is often gibberish- will be as bad as the Italian text you would want to send...plus most technical words I mean to say car parts are lacking from the G.T. database... Best regards, Marc
Try whether this hypothesis fills some of what is missing: The Gov't has taken titled possession of the Khamsin as a theft-recovery vehicle because: By now the original owner would have settled the theft/loss as an insurance matter (and if owner had no insurance, that's their choice, their risk and thus their cost). Also by now the vehicle has been written off by the insurer in their accounting as a total loss. An owner or insurer who shows up NOW with the original title is obliged to buy it back using the funds from previous compensation or from the write-off. I speculate that the documentation establishing the insurance compensation or write-off and ensuing "quit claim" to the Khamsin is what the Italian Gov't will assist the new buyer with in the near future (and I speculate this will lift the 'hold' on the title?). Does that work? I'm certain what you suggest has been tried and done - to have one's vehicle or artwork or valuables stolen, "disappeared", and then try getting them back for free (or you just have it sequestered somewhere secret to enjoy on weekend getaways) by surprising a new buyer with your title of the vehicle after you've received your insurance pay out.. Cheers, - Art
Hello never seen this one before, seems in excellent condition does anyone know how many cars were built in RHD and this color ? (rame = copper) I have no trace of any one other than LHD. Best regards Roger Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great find Roger,very surprised, a totally unknown one, a good surprise. Will look into it, have to talk w Fabio @ Classiche this week anyway. Best regards, Marc
Hi all, At least one other was in Rame. The highest RHD chassis number 445, for many years on its original registration number MGJ 101Y. Good article on it in Classic and Sportscar May 1996. Bal
Hi Bal, I was under the impression that 439 was the last-built Khamsin. Where does 445 come from? Best, Jack.
That assumes an insurance policy has been paid out. Frankly even that would not satisfy me if it was a car I poured so much unrecoverable effort into that was stolen but yes I do know that's how "insurance" works. It's a big risk I run by driving a really nice well kept 10 year old car. There's not much cash value and it's very difficult to replace . Which is why I maintain a loaded 45 revolver in the glove box so that I can effect instant on the spot claims adjustment if someone hits me. The case I cited early didn't involve any insurance claim that I know of but maybe he left that part out? Then again he was very mad about never getting paid by the out of business used car lot so I'm not sure that's true either. The local government seized and liquidated a car for which they had no title. They made a new title and everything was hunky dory. OK enough of the OT. Thanks.
Hi Bal, Jack, 445 is the highest RHD # however 439 is the last built of all LHD & RHD. 445 is now blue. Had a good day today drove one saw three More when i get back home. Best regards, Marc
Thanks for the update Marc, I was off to work when I made that contribution. But you have the info to hand better than I as I think Andy Heywood did a great article on the last RHD khamsin not being 445. Hence my choice of words in saying highest chassis number. But it's a crying shame 445 is no longer Rame. Bal
Greetings from Amsterdam Bal. No worries The ex owner of 445 drove it a lot between the UK, France and Germany but had an "allergy" to the rame color so chose that light blue before selling it so the Hong Kong car is not 445, I will try and figure out which it is this week. So how is 433? All the best, Marc
Hmm, Italians and chassis numbers. Where does 445 slot in in the production sequence? Hopefully not between 435 and 439? 435 was finished at the factory end of '81. The stats say there were 3 '82 cars. Do the stats talk about MY or calendar year? I do not know the Haywood article, ill look for it. Best, Jack.
You need access to that handwritten bound notebook Cozza kept with chassis numbers, dates and the odd note or two ... I've seen the last page for Boras you just need to ask for a look at the Khamsin book.
Haha, Bob, that sounds accurate! The link on page 54 of this thread to Heywood's article is dead. Anyone have a digital copy to send me? [email protected] TIA, Jack.
I'll try to scan it for you jack. It's in one of the club mags, just need to find it. So 435 was built at end of 81, yet 433 in July 80 iirc. No logic or reason, some say they picked the body of the colour needed from stock. Hi Marc, 433 is well though not driven much this year due my ill health. Long story but will explain when I know more. So unfortunately she came out of slumber for the annual check in September, and not since. Bal
It's in the Bora thread somewhere with Cozza pointing to my car! Not sure why as I didn't request it and the guy who did may not have even known the vin # of MY car at the time. Just serendipity ... There has to be one for Khamsins ... Marc?
Hi all, Lots of activity today Yes cars were not built in numerical sequence but were taken off the virtual shelf as needed by color choice, hence chassis numbers and production dates jumbled like by a Vegas card shark. The holy grail list Bob? I hope to get it eventually. At least there is only one list contrary to a model by another manufacturer in the region which has TWO lists...both of which confuse a namesake doctor with a famous crooner as an owner...and no, no further comment and I will remain quiet as a tomb Saluti from Amsterdam airport, Marc
Hi mate Jack Email sent over earlier. But I sent large attachments, hopefully it got through to you as I forgot to allow for mailbox limitations which may apply. Bal
Hi Bal & Bob, Bal, well received but you know that already by now. Bonus is that the article also makes mention of #435! Bob, thanks so much, that is another article, very interesting though. Best, Jack.
As an aside: Perhaps the chassis numbers were assigned when orders came in. #435 was completed in September or October '81 (I forgot which) according to the factory records, and 445 was completed (or shipped?) in October too. 441 and 443 do not exist, apparantly. Yet according to the factory 3 cars were built in '82, but I can account for only 1 for sure (439), possibly 2 (437) Records also state a number of cars for '81, but now I see that Bal's 433 was built in 1980. So again, are the factory data per model-year or calendar-year? It looks indeed like we have to search for a handwritten brown binder... Best, Jack.
What made it more confusing initially for me is that 433 was shipped in July 1980 but was not road registered until August 1982. So I thought it an 82 car when I bought it and yes that is the year of registration, but I learnt the build year from Marc's site. Fun with numbers really and Marc's work on compiling the info goes a long way to help us Bal
Bal, Quite right. I haven't looked at the registry-site for a long time, so I better go have a peek Best, Jack.
