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Which Sticky removal company is best or do your prefer?

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  1. Dave rocks

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    Most certainly, Ferrari owners have different goals. The owners, dealers and independents we deal with are of the type that want perfect restoration and believe the investment will pay back if they sell.

    I can tell you this: at today's market, unless your 360 is a salvage car, the cost for our services is not 10% of the value of the car. It's probably not even 5% of the higher value cars.
     
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    Thank you, Bruce. You were a pleasure to do business with and I am glad you are happy :)
     
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    that's surprising.
    there really wasn't anything I couldn't get the OEM stickiness off using oven cleaner, and for more stubborn areas, a green scrubbing pad as well for a minute or 2. in some cases, I could get away with using less aggressive 70% rubbing alcohol and a wipe cloth. I guess the SNM finish is more persistent, or perhaps needs the same aging process to become easy to remove as the OEM finish does.
     
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    When the OEM coating starts to fail, just about anything will remove it. But, if you try to remove new OEM coating, it's not an easy task and all the home brew products and equivalent to digging a hole in concrete with a plastic spoon ;)


    Here is a video of our coating and how tough it is :)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNpQ6mJXwZY[/ame]
     
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    Here are a set of 550 inner door handles completed yesterday. These same handles are used on 360, 430, 456 and 575. These are 3 piece aluminum casting assemblies. We strip them to bare aluminum, uses a special hi grade primer (multiple coats - fills all the pits in the aluminum castings) sand, top coat and laser etch the graphics prior to reassembly.

    Special tools and techniques are used to assemble these without damaging the finish. These are very time consuming to do properly and yield this outcome :)
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    That looks terrible
     
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    Outstanding work, these look terrific
     
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    In your opinion, please It is MUCH better then sticky parts.

    Dave does seem to have a great solution, I have to give him that. The pictures look great.
     
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    Thank you, Mike :)

    Much appreciated, Andrew ;)
     
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    I recall a time when I had a good long time high school friend visit and he wanted to check out my 355. He's not much of a car guy and doesn't really know anything about Ferraris.

    So he starts touching plastic pieces in my interior and black goo gets all over his fingers. This was during a cold night in my garage, not a hot summer day. His response was, "WTF is all this ****?"

    I said, " Don't touch anything plastic in the car. It's normal for Ferraris to have sticky plastics. That's their thing."

    His response was, "No F-ing Way. You bought a fake Ferrari didn't you? I'm sitting in a fake Ferrari right?"

    I was LMAO. I said, "No forreals man. Ferraris are like this. JUST trust me on this. This is a real Ferrari. They're all like this. Even new ones."

    His response, "No way man. You're pullin' my chain huh? There's no way a Ferrari can come like this!" He was shocked and baffled.

    Just thought I'd share :)

    I still need to do my stickies and certainly will be sending them to Dave.
     
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    I didn't say sticky looks better, I said it looked terrible....and it does. Refinish them, don't leave them bare, don't do the job half way, do it all the way and do it right or don't do it at all....it's a Ferrari not a Buick.
     
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    Your opinion, I have redone a few of my cars myself and I think they looked great. Certain parts are better suited for do it at home, other parts are very hard, others impossible imho. I have done 4-5 cars myself, and many parts look fantastic bare - many don't. This topic has been beaten to death on this forum.

    It was said perfectly in this post, if you want it perfect - perhaps even better looking then factory / send them to Dave. His images look amazing, i have heard from some fantastic mechanics they are what he says. I look forward to trying him on one of my cars, I have also told a few top shops about his process over the past 6 months. We have had a few lively debates at times, however I like to call it for what it is - and from what I hear its the best.
     
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    Yes, it is my opinion, but it is also my advice. And it is good advice.

    If you want bad advice, it won't come from me.
     
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    In your opinion;)
     
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    Lol....fair enough :)
     
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    They look good to me... not perfect, not brand new. But like a 15 yr old cars parts would, and not sticky...that's the main thing. Let's face it, if these parts weren't sticky, we wouldn't worry too much about refinishing them. I know I wouldn't.
    And let's not forget, there a big difference between cellphone pics inside the car, and professionally staged and lighted pics.
     
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    Except if they were not sticky, they would already be finished in a hard touch like ours and would not be bare plastic :D
     
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    I think a lot of ppl would be surprised and disappointed to learn of the sticky issues with respect to some well regards luxury brands.
    Was the first think I looked after when I got my car, as I didn't want any gawkers to be able to call it a sticky****box.lol
    I live in musclecsr/hot rod country...every second house has a rat rod or refurbed 60's Detroit iron example in it. Lol.
     
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    Honestly the bare plastic isn't that noticeable, IMO and doesn't look that different from the sticky finish.just slightly more flat.
     
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    Well, our customer base would respectfully disagree with you :)

    Their is a reason, actually many, why manufacturers don't leave parts as mold. They just don't look good. Even my hair dryer has a painted finish :)
     
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    I would add only this. The 360/430/575/612 cars are all high-volume Montezemolo-era cars. They are not museum pieces, just wonderful sportscars. They will never draw millions at auctions. A 360 in great condition is worth maybe $90K (about half of what it cost new). So, do you really want to spend an amount to fix the sticky knobs equal to what a Rotary lift to work on the car would cost? For me, the answer was no; but, then again, I'm very handy with a garage full of tools. For many guys, who don't have the skill or inclination to work on their own cars, sending them to a re-finisher is the way to go. Different strokes...
     
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    WJR, what I find very interesting is that you have been a member here since 2004 and now have 4 posts, I think 3 in this thread alone. So, you seem to have a personal issue with the cost of sticky refinishing done properly.

    Owners of these cars have different goals and different priorities. I'm an owner of 2 355's (was 3 until recent) and also a Maserati GT. I keep my cars in tip top shape regardless of the value or return on investment. For me, it's about pride, love and respect for the brand. No different than a guy with a 1970 Camero or Mopar.

    If I was to get a door ding or paint chips, they would be corrected. Interior is no different. If you enjoy your car the way you wish to maintain (or not), that is fine as it's yours and yours to do what you wish.

    I post in threads like this because many people read them and some don't know all the details. I respect anyone's choice but I want people to understand the difference and folks that post as you do, try to claim the same result is achieved from your cleaning efforts compared to proper refinishing. Do want you wish but please respect that what you have done is not even in the same Galaxy as professional refinishing.
     
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    This is one of the most ridiculous posts on this topic.

    "You have a 90k Ferrari so do you really want to spend any money to fix the sticky interior?"

    That is utter nonsense.
     
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    Dave please do not waste your time trying to justify.

    Your work and your customer feedback speaks for itself.
     

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