Hamilton in F1 for 'another decade at least'

Also agree that testing is far too limited. Although I don't believe it should be totally unlimited either.

 

Agreed.

But testing alone is not the only thing that needs to be brought back on the calendar. They also need to unfreeze the dev steps for engines. There is no point in testing if you can't apply your findings.

 

Isn't that the case now though with the token system scrapped?

 

Maybe, not sure

 

I can see 5 seasons, too. Hamilton is getting older and his competitors are getting younger. He'll need the best to remain competitive or else he will be an also ran. He could stay in F1 as a commentator like Herbert, Brundle, Hill...

 

A very noble statement and one I wholeheartedly agree with. But the reality is that those who succeed are lined up for abuse, it being much easier to criticise other teams and drivers rather than face the reality that Ferrari has been inept.

 

Discuss ferrari, Kimi, Vettel, and I'm more than happy to debate them. If you are discussing elton, Nico or Mercedes I have every right to get my point across. I can't help that his fans can't take the loss against Nico on the chin

 

+1 and look at the asterik marked name calling by others about Nico LOL in other threads. He's left and had every right to, they still think he is a devil or much worse. Too bad he won but he did it and its they, here, obsessed with LH who must accept it. LH has more than moved on others here might want to join him. Its over.

 

Why don't we all just have a group hug and move on?

 

Im in rum mood since its not sunny and Im not in Aruba......a hug might suffice

 

Yep pretty much. I'm sure 1000hp is attainable in qualifying mode but that's it. The cars power is indeed limited by the amount of fuel (flow rate as well). If refueling was allowed and there was no maximum flow rate, we'd see some tremendously powerful cars, really only limited by boost. They'd fit bigger turbos, use the ERS for lower end power more and easily haver 1500hp, and associated noise of course.

To a certain degree, yes, it will help. But the biggest issue is the larger front wings (again...) and the incredible amount of elements the cars have. The elements need clean air to actually work, so as soon as a car is up to 1.5 seconds behind another car, they get limited air towards the front thus don't get the downforce they need, and are inherently slowed to the point that overtaking becomes incredibly hard. The car then uses the tires more by sliding around (even if we can't see it), and the Pirelli's take a long time to cool down. In reality on new-ish tires they only have 2-5 laps to have a realistic chance at an overtake.

Instead of going to even large front wings we needed to get (much) smaller ones (also less chance of damaging one in case of light contact) and much fewer elements (i.e. shape is free but only 1 element, the gurney flap for amount of downforce wanted). Mercedes has over 30 elements on their front wing alone (!).

Thank you

They sort of have that with the different engines modes (and ERS on demand), although both drives have it so a driver intelligent in defending can use it very well in keeping his position (prime example was Verstappen defending Kimi in Spain that led him to victory; he knew exactly where the Ferrari was fast, how it used its KERS and power advantage and Verstappen just generated all his energy for use on the straight, thus the Ferrari couldn't pass...at the only other overtaking spot you really need the driver ahead to make a mistake as the straight is just too short to have an overtake purely on power alone).

 

Literally drooling here. I just hope we get there soon. It sounds so exciting.

Thanks for all the detail. Makes perfect sense. I would also add that the elements make the car ugly, so it would be an aesthetic improvement to limit them as well.

Makes sense - thanks. Hopefully they figure out a way to better show this on tv and at the track. I love that the Indycars light up PP on the side when guys are on the button. It would be cool to see something like this in f1. I know the tv broadcast shows it at times when they have the gauges overlaid, but it's rare and not consistent. Honestly I hope Liberty adds the ability to watch the cockpit for any car, and to cycle between them, for the entire race. IMSA offers this online for certain races.

 

So... we shouldn't talk about Lewis Hamilton or Mercedes, otherwise you reserve the right to pour vitriol all over the thread?

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Stating fact is vitriol, and having a laugh is banned? With all the elton love we have to put up with, taking the Mick out of him is fun fun fun

 

You might think you're just having a laugh, but there are many others who don't appreciate it and report your posts as trolling. You really do need to tone it down.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

That's fair enough, I hadn't thought of some of these guys as trolling, but if they are reporting me for that unfairly, presumably it works both ways? I find their posts picking at statistics to try to get around the fact he lost the title as the same, especially when it's done seemingly to achieve a rise out of tifosi. I actually started a Elton tribute thread at one point, and none of them bothered to post in it, so it ended up, unintentionally I might add, becoming a joke thread.

I appreciate that I don't like Elton, and they don't like it, but if they keep posting reasons why he's some kind of God, then they have to expect those that think otherwise to post to say so, after all, that's the reason for the 'reply' button, and they are well aware the vast majority on a ferrari based forum are likely tifosi, not mercedosi or whatever they might call themselves (maybe flat-cappers, silver arrowista?), and are therefore likely to be less than supportive of excuses for their team or man

There are plenty of my posts that don't have anything to do with the anointed one, but in a thread about him, or Mercedes, it's pretty difficult to avoid mentioning him in it. It's also pretty much a red rag to a bull when they state that 'heads will explode' if ferrari are so down on their luck they feel the need to hire him.

 

Just realised, US based people won't necessarily understand the 'flat cappers ' comment..... in the U.K., older men of a certain social standing would be driving their sports car or prestige vehicle (Mercedes) wearing driving gloves and a flat cap (such as Jackie Stewart's cap). It's not a gang thing, gangstas!

 

Sid, they aren't saying that. You seem to interpret anything even remotely positive about Hamilton as a personal provocation to you. This really is your problem and not theirs.

Furthermore, I don't think you've been unfairly reported, your posts have been pretty extreme for some time and I've been hopeful that you'd calm down without direct intervention but that doesn't seem to be happening. You must tone it down.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Don't ban daytona355, for all his constant ranting I don't think there is any malice against other posters, just playground banter.

He's entitled to his opinion, just like others are, however wrong we or I may be.