355 Engine out videos - not mine..

You are correct, he does not know how to tension the belts.

 

Watched these last week. will be many notes - a little brave if ask me. Also that car looked hammered - definitely left out in the rain for some period. Never seen the finish as battered on the subframe and rear frame as well as the rust!

Noticed that his rear wheels were also spinning with motor running and with the rear of the car elevated and in neutral...

 

Is that bad?

 

Hoping not as my 97 is doing same

 

Really appreciative of videos like these. Demystifies the engine out service even more when seen in step-by-step video format.

So this was his first attempt, working evenings and on his own. Did I hear him right when he said it took him 5 nights?

For my own education, what did he get wrong about the tensioners?

 

Any manual car will do that.

 

Agree _ helpful to see


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This may be a little help to someone but I found other write ups in fchat to be way better and most of the ones I read people also did the repairs properly.

Many many details missed but overall it's o k . I think he should get a WSM and follow it though. At least it acts as a basic summary which is likely what he was trying to do.

As others have said though, that car was definitely not cared for much by the look of everything as he Took it apart.

As stupid as this may sound I felt sorry for the car being left that way.

 

I give anyone props who is willing to take this on themselves - always room to learn for next time

 

Doing some engine out service research as I am considering doing mine this spring.

This is from cf355 s well done engine out thread on tensioner setting.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/138489476-post47.html

 

I like how he nailed it to 7K seconds after startup!

 

I used about 5 different ones but from memory the two main ones were from cf355 and rvflicken. Both were very good but there is yet a good one for the specific F1 guys as of yet.

 

I saw that and immediately thought what a smart guy...

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I cringed at the revving as well.

I asked him in the comments section of his video how long it took him, and he said 16-20 hours of actual work over the course of one week, with a helping hand for the last 7 hours of it. I think that's great considering it was his first time, and had to fix things along the way. I imagine the next time around it would go even quicker.

It now makes sense to me that belts can be changed (in England only, it seems) for $2K. If an independent pro at about $120/hr were to just do the bare essentials for a belt swap, with or without water pump and tensioners, and skipped the valve clearances, cam cover touch up, and whatnot, shouldn't it cost about the same here? That's what I need, as my car suffers from time elapsed and not miles between services.

I know, there are mountains of threads arguing service costs. Never mind. It's just me muttering out loud (on the internet).

 

I don't believe the 16-20 hours number.

 

Why lie? And if it's a quick and dirty belt change done by a knowledgeable guy with a lift and tools, why take longer? Part of me doesn't want to believe it as well. The part that tries justifying the $5K quotes I get for a basic belt service on my 348.

Then again, I once as a new homeowner paid an electrician $600 to change six ceiling lamp fixtures in my house (flat rate $100/fixture). He was done in one hour. I have similar stories about plumbers. Nowadays, I do all that stuff myself.

And that's why the other part of me wants to believe that service hour number, in case I take on the engine-out project myself. The prospect of possibly getting it done in a few days and for the cost of parts is tantalizing.

 

I am not saying he lies, just that he is not keeping accurate count.

 

Mitchel has done enough of these to know how long it takes and what adds time to them as well.

That guy didn't do the cam covers, didn't check the timing although he did do the headers. Just replacing the fluids and bleeding the brakes , etc. takes me a few hours.

20 hours seems awfully fast to me.

 

Mine ok about 60 hrs plus parts.

That's from jacks going under car to car on ground when done.

Taking both rear tires off and inner fenders and putting back takes about 1.5 hrs on ground to on ground. I have done this 20 to 30 times.

Could likely speed this up about half hour with no torque wrench and spinning on and off with a Air gun but you risk chipping wheels.

My engine out took me about 120 hours
Re did covers, degreed cams, repainted axle heat shields, many other cosmetics in engine bay.

If you rush it you are not doing your car justice in my opinion. I found many little things wrong which was the whole point of doing it myself.

Any quotes around 10 grand are reasonable in my opinion. Mine would have been close to 15 if a shop had done it.

 

wow chill out guys. I bought the cheapest 6 speed rosso corsa 6 speed 355 in the country with zero service history.

nitt pick all you want but the car is far better off after my 'service' than before no matter how you spin it.

belts held tension just fine and a set of these daycos shouldn't stretch almost at all over their 3 year 30k run interval. it has been almost a year and several thousand miles. the car is extremely happy.

regarding plugs. so many misinformed posts everywhere on which plugs M2.7 and 5.2 cars prefer.. these denso plugs have been butter butter smooth, no issues.

regarding the rev, honestly with pump prime, 85 degree oil isn't going to let any damage befall bearings or rings at 7. much above that definitely sure.

it took a little under 20 hours all in. as another posted:why would I lie?

I appreciate the views and the fact there's discussion here but fact of the matter is the car benefitted tremendously from my work, and the fact that not everything was done to the absolutely horrendous F355 service manual is actually and fully irrelevant.