Cavallino Classic - Competition Class Concours

This is not an FCA event.

I will express an opinion about #2 though. In general most concours events judge condition and originality and some organizations will weight one or the other differently. How would you judge an active race car no matter its age? Field repairs and modifications change event to event and components are changed routinely to get a part in there that works, or one that works better or one the driver prefers. What is original? Todays version? Yesterdays? After the race it can be pretty beat up. How do you score that? That has just become a popularity contest and not a concours. I like all kinds of cars and many kinds of car events, beat up tired looking race cars included but this is something very different. For what you speak of they already do at the paddock of every vintage race in the country and that is why they are popular too..

 

+1

It's nice to see the modern Challenge cars get some respect as competition Ferrari's.
The owner brought the car out for viewing and judging.
The car was exactly how it came out of the factory and it was intended as a competition Ferrari. It was a well preserved car that deserved to win.
Congratulations for winning!

 

This brings back a memory of Gerald Roush kvetching about having to judge new Ferraris. Like, what was he supposed to do? All he could do was take points off for adding any nonstandard part like a bra.

 

First, I should qualify my post by saying I'm really not a fan of race and challenge cars. This thread caught my attention specifically because of last weekends Cavallino. I actually had a long conversation with the owner of 348 Challenge car that won because I was admiring his car. When he acquired the car from the Dr. (as was explained earlier), he drove the car for 20,000 miles. He just recently had a full restoration completed and the car looks like new. It's really a gorgeous, perfect car. Still, I think it seems very odd to have a car with no challenge elements or livery, be entered into this class. It really should have been classified with other 348's, which it still would have deserved platino.

 

Not a knock on the judges, the beautiful cars, or the owners. They all are appreciated.

Seems to be a no win scenario in this category at Cavallino based on the good points mentioned here. It's on originality vs success in racing vs levels of restoration or any of the above. Seems there are plenty of historic racing Ferrari's that have been restored from the ground up whether they be gto or orig testarossa. I can appreciate a car that raced, placed, and has undergone a classiche level restoration to have best of both worlds. I normally see these mixed in with regular judging with street cars like at pebble for the highest level.

I'm torn because I love seeing the level of cleanliness and originality - but I'd like to see that in a car that has racing pedigree for this category even if it was just a back marker or is that another name for "always a street car" - you see - no right answer.

Then we'd likely try refining it to how many races a car participated in or if it ever won a race - so this is also a no win death spiral - time to appreciate all cars individually I think. Because no one here will ever agree on all the criteria as we all have vastly different values on what would make a best in show for the competition cars.

Hard to ever pick just one anyway. We would all love to own any of these cars.

Robb

 

Bellissimo 348 Challenge!
Interesting discussion

 

I'm not a fan of repairing race patina

IMHO it only strokes your weak spot

 

At some point it's no longer patina and it has to be repaired...







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Agreed.

Over nearly 10 years of racing my car had new paint jobs, damage repairs, more paint jobs etc.

I felt I had to bite the bullet, take it back to the metal (or fiberglass or aluminuim) and start again. Shame to lose the history I guess but what do you do?
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