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Its 2020, 2 Ferraris, 308 VS 328????

Discussion in '308/328' started by James in Denver, Jan 6, 2008.

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  1. sidtx

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    LOL!!!!

    I couldn't resist!!!!!

    Sid


    P.S - I own a Mondial QV. Love it. could care less about the value, now or in the future.
     
  2. barabba

    barabba Formula Junior

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    What baffles me is the prices of some 911s of the same era reaching the 200k figure. But put them next to a 328 and you can hardly take notice of them..... The 328 is sheer beauty like pretty much nothing else from those times.
     
  3. vaccarella

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    Maybe it is a reference to the high quality of over restoration work, chroming every nut etc so the car is "better" than anything the factory could possibly have produced. I don't think it's a sleight against the undoubtedly high quality of care you've given your cars, Andy.
     
  4. Todd308TR

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    Y'all send me a PM when A+ 1985 Euro 308s hit $100K again, mine will be for sale then.
     
  5. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    #30 Ferrari 308 GTB, Feb 8, 2017
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    Only 3 years to 2020! The 328 is quite a bit faster than any production 308,but for me the old school interior 308 wins out,plus those carbs too if you are lucky:)

    Vetro $250K
    GTB Carb/Dry sump $150k
    Qv $125K
    328 $125K ($350K for the 1 Cabriolet)
    308 Rest of.$100K

    Will check in again in 2020!
     
  6. Rosey

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    And the numbers made of 911 versus 308/328 defy logic too when looking at values.
     
  7. nerofer

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    Not here: in France, and as far as 328s go, and like in many other European countries, there are about 2 GTBs for 3 GTSs. The consequence is that the GTB is not viewed as being rare at all. Nor is the GTSs liked more. Both have their virtues.
    (That's probably why I have had one of each for six years in a row now...)

    Rgds
     
  8. nerofer

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    #33 nerofer, Feb 8, 2017
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    My, how times change! The cabriolet has been for sale literally for years in Italy, way back in 2007; if my memory serves me well, it was advertised for at least two years before someone took pity of her and bought her for much less than a standard GTS...
    The funny thing is that many books mention her as being "legit", factory made, etc...and it was displayed in a number of salons in 1985 and 1986, but somehow its importance was lost over the years.
    Would love to have her too...

    Rgds
     
  9. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Too true, with all the hoohah surrounding the 550 Barchetta one wonders just what the only 328 Cabrio would actually be worth nowadays?
     
  10. nerofer

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    #35 nerofer, Feb 8, 2017
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  12. Harry-SZ

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    Cool! I didn't even know it existed.
     
  13. nerofer

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    Chassis #49543; it has a full VIN, intended for the USA.
    It predated the "next" 328 development prototype, a GTB, châssis #56211, by a year and a half, and was intensively tested in 1984. It therefore is the first 328 built.

    The factory originally intended to build the 328 in three different body style, GTB, GTS and a full cabriolet (what eventuelly became the case for the 348 and 355). The extensive road tests were deemed satisfactory, but ultimately the marketing-men decided against it, for fear that it would "cannibalize" the sales of the "Mondial Cabriolet". So it remained a one-off.

    It was shown in many salons in Europe in 1985 and early 1986, and its existence is mentioned in a number of articles and books. It then disappeared in some form of oblivion, until it resurfaced for sale in 2005/2007 in Italy.

    Rgds
     
  14. Sean308

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    I am bias as currently own a 308 QV, but also looked at 328 and drove them as well. I like both the look on the outside and the look on the inside of the 308 better than the 328. But hope both the 308 and 328 prices reflect how amazing they are.
    I have had many people who have been amazed at the beauty of the exterior of the 308, then after they have sat in the drivers seat have then been just as amazed at the interior equally.
    So inside and out, its a thing of beauty.
    The trick is to find a partner that ticks both boxes.
     
  15. Brian A

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    #40 Brian A, Feb 10, 2017
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    2020 is only 3 years away, so my expectation is that they will still likely have the same relative position to each other.

    I find it interesting to note how much the value of Hagerty category 1 vehicles have spread from poorer condition vehicles. I have read that more speculators purchased 328s than they did 308s, so there are more pristine extremely low mileage 328s out there than 308s. This may raise the value of Hagerty category 1 308s above category 1 328s in the future.

    The big question is how many people will seek the vintage car experience in the future. Driving is changing. I can imagine equally compelling scenarios where interest in old cars becomes intense or it dies completely. In the mean time, I sure ain't saving my car for someone else.

    Rarity is only an influence in value. There are lots of rare ugly and undesirable cars to be had for cheap. Their rareness is a liability.

    Personally, I think too much is made of the differences between the 308 models. They all almost look the same, almost drive the same and almost sound the same. Dependability, like rarity, is a factor in value, so maybe in the long run the FI cars will get one extra point for dependability.
     
  16. kcabpilot

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    That is a big question but another part of it is - will the vintage car market continue to be evolutionary? What I mean by that is what happens when the cars that are turning 35 years old are comprised largely of plastic components and rely on multiple NLA ECU's to function?
     
  17. ScuderiaRossa

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    I remember reading a small article in Hemmings Sports & Exotic last year about an ongoing EU effort to get suppliers to provide services that preserve and restore electronic components (specifically ECUs) from the 80s. I remember this because at the time I thought the Bosch L-Jetronic on my GTV 6 was acting up...
     
  18. James in Denver

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    Just to clarify, I started this thread in early 2008, and bumped it a few weeks ago. :)

    James in Denver
     
  19. mjw02

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    #44 mjw02, Feb 15, 2017
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    Maybe or maybe not :)

    It's cool to experience them both , very different rides. One slaugthered the other in the performance department and forced the F40 to appear, changed the supercar world hence its appreciation in value.

    I love them both.
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