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XKSS at auction

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  1. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd F1 World Champ
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  2. dsd

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    The XKSS may be my favorite car-- certainly favorite non-Ferrari.

    I think it's more rare. 16 original and 9 continuations.

    A local bar has an original on display. Wish they would put it on the road.
     
  3. mcimino

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  4. XJRS Owner

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    May be rare, but still butt ugly. Much rather have the equally rare (and beautiful) Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato.
     
  5. 375+

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    I think that the XK-SS is cool and I understand the rarity, but it makes no sense to me that they sell for more than a proper D Type.
     
  6. dsd

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    That's a minority opinion if I've ever heard one.
     
  7. Fennicus

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    Hi,

    I think it's perfectly logical, as each and every one of the original ones was born as a proper D-type. But then the factory added a few things, like a badge, bumpers, a hood (top), muffler, luggage rack and...well that's about it.

    Thank God they now are appreciated, as before it was so that many of them had been converted back to D-types. Every XKSS has two chassis numbers, one as XKD5XX and one as XKSS7XX.

    So rarer than a GTO but not as expensive and of course not as desirable to some folks.

    Cheers,

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  8. Wade

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    My PC has two monitors, when I'm not using the right one, this website is currently my "screensaver". :)

    JD Classics
     
  9. Edward 96GTS

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    no sale due to nonmatching motor?
     
  10. dsd

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    I think the late disclosure and that fact impacted the auction. However, bidding to $11.9 million for that car should have sold it, IMO.

    -dsd
     
  11. boxerman

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    Or you could have lynx build you an exact car now and actualy enjoy it on the road.


    Performance is still near the top even today, and its way more of a blast to drive than anything modern. There is a reason why after plaing with ferrari 275s Mqueen bought his back, of course he sold it to keep his license. Passenger legs also burn up from heat, so not really a street car in the strictest sense, actualy a street legal race car with wind protection..

    The great thing about a Dytpe recreation is youre not trashing some other period built car to make it, as sadly happens with ferraris.
     
  12. dsd

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    Aren't a lot of the D and XKSS recreation's using E-Type Chassis and/or engines?

    The really nice XKSS/D-Type recreations are all aluminum and cost a few hundred thousand, from what I have seen. I'd love to have a left hand drive one :)
     
  13. boxerman

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    A recreation should be exactly that a tool room copy, same monocoque etc. The onoy difference is one has a period chasis plate and the recreation does not.
     
  14. atomicskiracer

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    Uhh..I am in Virginia and would love to see that, what bar?
     
  15. dsd

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  16. Peloton25

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    I'm finding it very difficult to believe that car displayed at Clyde's could be the real deal.

    Mind you, it does look very nice:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BL5DSX4jU2l/

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BGA3SzxA_Y-/

    I've reviewed the XKSS entries at COVENTRYRACERS - Keeping track of every Jaguar Sports Racer - Jaguar C-Type, D-Type, XKSS and Lightweight information, articles, photos and register - and they account for 15 of 16 real cars with photos. None are a match to this car, and there's no indication that any of them could have been hiding in plain sight for decades at this bar. Google has a couple of passing references, but really nothing conclusive.

    >8^)
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  17. dsd

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  18. Tenney

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIOo-4aptU[/ame]
     
  19. Peloton25

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    I had seen that. Honestly I'd love nothing more than for this story to be true, but at the moment it doesn't quite add up. I have a friend who is somewhat local in D.C. who will also try to get a closer look by paying them a visit.

    >8^)
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  20. henryr

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    RM just had a tempuro at amelia that brough 250k i think
     
  21. Fennicus

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    Hi,

    Not really, they might use the "identity" of a scarpped E-type, but more typically some other Jaguar, XJ6, S-type etc.

    They don't use the chassis, as an E-type or an XJ6 does not really have a chassis and the monocoque or body are so different. Basically most replicas do this in order to be a "modified" old car and thus be able to register the car for street use (titled) and not be just a "kit car" but in a lot of cases they do not use anything more than a Jaguar engine block, sometimes a gearbox and final drive as well as some other mechanical parts.

    Cheers,

    Pekka T.
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  22. MiuraP400

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    This car is clearly a fake. At a glance I see the following issues. The front end proportions are not right. It is missing the fuel filler behind the driver. The transmission tunnel is clearly wrong.

    Cheers Jim
     
  23. Peloton25

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    #23 Peloton25, Mar 23, 2017
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    I was leaning that way of course, and appreciate your insight.

    I do want to point out that in this alternate overhead view the fuel filler is present.

    >8^)
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  24. MiuraP400

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    Thanks for pointing that out. Your are correct it is in the right spot.

    Cheers Jim
     
  25. tbakowsky

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    Does the owner realise he has 16 million dollars collecting dust in his bar?
     

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