Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

very very impressive.

 

Not even close in reality. Bugatti states 2.5s and for a good reason. So, either the speedo is a bit off, or there's something wrong with this video. Anyway, 1st gear gets to nearly 100 but not quite, so it has to upshift. This video is more representative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kldGCoc8wZY

 

My initial reaction as well. But the 100-200 time seems bang on. And Bugatti states "less than" for each. Similar to what Ferrari did. Maybe Bugatti was being cheeky.

 

Huge wheel spin at around 50 mph in this video. So not a clean run. You can tel by it falling from 90 kph to 50 kph almost immediately.

 

Nah, less than 2.5 means 2.4. Believe me, if they could do 1.5 they would be advertising it like nothing else!

 

I'm inclined to agree with you but I've never seen anything like that video. The kph are clicking by in 20 kph increments lol

 

You mean the digital speedo?

I think they do that so its easier to read the speed if you look at it for a short period of time.

Porsche(easier to read) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoKst5KKtdQ
Huracan(harder to read, numbers change too fast) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8nuXs3iWCw


About the 1.5secs to 100 on Chiron video...I think that's clearly speedo error due to wheelspin.
A good example at 0:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRLCzOtzd2U

 

There's no way in hell the Chiron does 0-62mph in 1.5 sec...

 

Anyone care to take a wild guess as to what kind of laptime LaF could do in the Ring? I mean a lot of people have tested all 3 cars by now, so what is the general idea here, could LaF do a sub 7 min laptime?

 

I agree

 

I await a head to head 918 vs Performente grudge match by a third party (Motor Trend?). It's not that I don’t trust Lamborghini results, but as Ronald Reagan once said: trust but verify.

 

I think this will be interesting as well. Not totally sure we get it. I don't know if it'd end well for the HP either.

 

If the old LFA N-ring edition can do a 7:14, and the Merc GT R can do a 7:10, then I see no reason why the performante can't do the 6:52 if the aero is true.

If we take the best figures for the huracan vs the average figures for the 918, the difference is around 1/2 sec @ 100mph. However, if we take the best from each, then up to 150mph, the 918 is ahead by 3secs. 1/4 trap speed is about 10mph diff.

 

any news on the merc P one? Can't really get too excited by the AM though. Too compromised for road use. Leaves me cold like the macca F1

P.s. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/mercedes-amg-project-one-could-be-a-three-seater-116795.html

 

I heard second hand that Mercedes had a private showing with VIP's and the reaction wasn't positive by in large.

 

Really? Do you know more?

 

Unfortunately, no.

 

Merc AMG will have 275 people who will buy the Project One. No doubt. It was received well enough that Mercedes stopped taking new order inquiries back in the middle of March, shortly after the private showing. There maybe people who don't like certain configurations about the car but there is no denying the tech and performance of this car. IMO it is way beyond anything on the street today.

 

Re the AM; might as well get a 919 converted for road use

http://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsandracing/motorsport/worksracing/racingcars/919-hybrid/featuresandspecs/

 

That's actually a really good point and doesn't sound very appealing.

 

Crazy how the Chiron gets released and this thread dies. Just wait until the mag tests to see how much it obliterates the "big three".

I'll say this though, IMHO the 918/P1/LAF were the three biggest leaps in automotive performance of all time. They were massively faster and more capable than anything before them. Veyron SS-fast in a straight line and could handle like a lotus. But ultimately I think the tech being first generation will let the cars down long term in that the next series hyper hybrids will be superior with weight and power. Nonetheless, nothing captured the minds of auto enthusiasts like these three. All are brilliant and in quite different ways. The performance is so similar it's splitting hairs. I could make an argument for why someone would own each. We got to discuss them for three years which is pretty incredible staying power nowadays. But clearly it's time to move on.

 

Only in a straight line, and that's not even a dead certainty up to a specific speed. Bugattis are just top speed cars, compromised in every other dimension. They are not even the best at what they do; buy a Regera or a souped up Lambo if all you want is top speed.

 

i almost agree with you, but it's the Veyron that was the biggest leap in automotive performance history....use your memory....1001 hp in 2005, DSG and 400kph....the 918/P1/LF barely compete
today....
the Veyron remains the greatest drivers car of all time.....

 

I can understand your first argument completely but I can't agree with this statement.

 

how much seat time do you have in one?