my 612 radiator hose burst today with no warning, went home on a flat bed. wasnt even driving hard or hot out. bought new 7 years and with less than 18k miles.
got pretty much everything new since the 430, I think every model has left me stranded on the side of the road sometime in their life, big ones were tranny related issues on the 458 and scuderia, small but annoying ones were hose bursts or loosens that still left me on a flat bed. don't get me started on the stupid sticky trim issue that I have on all of them. does my 930' gt2, cgt have anything close to these issues, .... no. does my aventador overheat , yes! my 1 year huracan has never had an issue and just sold it. would I keep on buying fcars, of course!
Known weak point. Sorry. It's odd how ferrari and Maserati go cheap on some things. Like putting an original oil in a Kmart frame. But they do go cheap on hoses, gaskets, interior bits, sometimes more important things like cats. The replacement pulleys for the 550's coming out of China are garbage. Always nice when an expensive consumable like ball joints get picked up by the likes of Hill. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
This is worrying me. My 612 is MY2008 and has been on the Middle East most of the time. Should I change the hoses? Which ones? From which brand? Thanks.
I think it's just the upper radiator hose and there's no aftermarket option yet. Terry? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
Bob- It is the one with the 180 degree bend in it. Dave Helms at SRI was working on a replacement (not sure how that came out) and someone here (I think) used two hoses and an aluminum tube with the 180 degree bend to replace his. Should be in here somewhere unless it was in the other forum.
Found it. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478434 Thank you so much. Not sure who can help me to fabricate it, though. Enviado do meu iPhone usando o Tapatalk
This year I've spent less than a thousand dollars on maintenance, but other years the cost was staggering. You keep the car maintained, enjoy it and don't look back.
I've actually found it can go for years at at time like that, and then there are a few years where it seems like everything possible goes wrong!
When my 456 went in for it's first major, the first thing they did without even asking me was swap out all the radiator hoses saying the originals were never any good Not had that issue on either of my 612's but I suppose when I take in the current one for its major, I'll be conscious to see if they again want to any swap out these hoses
I drive mine as was intended when the car was designed, if I get the chance and my wife is not with me, if she is, I drive like an old lady to keep her happy! Maybe next year when the Ferrari warrantee runs out I will be more careful, but I think not as its too much fun.
still waiting for that 993TT to drop below $30K. Already go the funds set aside. another six to twelve months and you can't give 'em away...
I bought my first Ferrari in 2004. I wasnt ready financially. I didnt realize the purchase price might be the easy part. In the first year my F355 needed almost $20k in work. I did not do my homework. After a couple years i sold the car disgruntled. Wasnt interested in owning another Ferrari. However, a few years after that, my income was higher and I had spent enough time in the community to understand what owning an out of warranty Ferrari means. So now, Im fine with it. I know i can spare $10-20k year if needed on maintenance/repairs. That would cover pretty much anything shy of total engine detonation. To me, thats where someone needs to be financially and mentally, before buying an out of warranty Ferrari. You need to be in a place where $20k is not that big a deal. Otherwise the car becomes too worrisome.
Opening up an old thread that I started. I've come to grips with the costs of parts and repairs and come to expect it. We have a great independent repair facility in Norwood's and I really like James. Now, I'm starting to really question ownership again and it's due to the "Point A to Point A driving". I'd like to be able to take my car out to a nice restaurant, park it without worrying and go home after a nice evening. It seems nobody is willing to do this any more with any exotic due to worrying about someone sitting on the hood and taking a selfie, others spitting on it or keying it, etc. Remember that video of the two cows sitting on the hood of a 430(?) taking pictures of each other in the mall?!? I call up my friends who also have an exotic and it's really difficult to meet up for a drive together. We're all professionals and hard to get times to match up. When we do, it's just driving around the outskirts of town on Lubbock's 100 mile long, straight as an arrow streets. Our local PCA club drives down to the Davis mountains, has auto crosses, Club meetings/get togethers at least bi weekly. They take their cars out to eat with no worry about damage because, of course, it's just a Porsche and no-one really cares. Part of the very nature of it being a Ferrari has destined it to sitting under a cover in the temperature controlled garage waiting to be driven once every month or two. Either damage from spectators or depreciation from excess mileage, take your pic. I guess I could just ignore it and use it to drive all the time but it's also a shame to turn this car into a daily driver too. Give me some advice on this. Totally in my head, I know and I'd like to accept the circumstances...
The same thing has gone through my head but bottom line is I just can't convince myself to get rid of my Ferrari. My reasons are similar to yours in a way. Here in Australia we have DRACONIAN speed laws, dare to stray even a few kmh/mph over the already ridiculously low limit and be prepared to bend over, plus the speed limit changes so often you never know what the limit is unless you're very familiar with that road, so driving becomes an Exercise in constantly watching your speedometer. Aus also loves their hidden cameras and unmarked cars targeting speed, so even going 2-3mph above our 110kmh/68-69mph limit will get you done! I've spent time in the US, UK, Asia and nowhere is as obsessed with speeding laws as aus in my Experience. Quite a few highways near me also have lower 50-55mph limits I've thought of going back to a Porsche as they're much easier to leave somewhere and put miles/kms on (ok the speed law part still applies), but at the end of the day it's nowhere near as special for me Bottom line is, everything in my head says sell the Ferrari because I will never get to drive it even at 1/10th in Australia unless I go on regular track days (but I'd prefer something else for the track) but heart says opposite. I guess you need to ask yourself why you want to own a Ferrari. If you feel it's not giving you what you initially Bought it for, then maybe it's time to move on, but only IF you are willing to have something else in your garage and not miss the Ferrari (that you never get to drive lol)
you are on this merry go round once. if you have the means, then drive what makes you smile. nobody ever layed on their death bed regretting the miles they put on their ferrari.
I've found most of these "speed limit laws" are more towards creating income and less towards safety. Here in Texas, we have many places with 80mph speed limits so it's not really bad. Many people call them rolling meter maids. I am very prone our police force, don't get me wrong, but sometimes the speed limits are ridiculous. I also purchased it to see if I can keep the huge depreciation from killing me like all other super cars. So far, it's done surprisingly well considering it's worth about the same as when I purchased it a year and a half ago. (I think!?!) Compare that to a Bentley, Aston Martin, Mercedes or Porsche. There's nothing like that sound when you start it up!
Exactly this. On one of our first rides in the Cali, we took a blast in one of the only tunnels in DFW, windows rolled down, and the wife just giggled like a school girl when I dropped it a few gears, & said "This car is so impractical, I love it!" A year later, little has changed. It's all about miles and smiles in a Ferrari. There is no rational reason anyone needs one. Every time I hit the start button, smile! Every time I rearrange my schedule to take off early from work to drive it, smile! If it's not putting a smile on your face, sell it, life is too short. T
Smiles there big time. Just wish I could take it out for dinner and stuff without all the drama. I guess the drama comes with the territory though. If it didn't, it wouldn't be a Ferrari. "There are those supercar owners that own a Ferrari, and those that will..."
There is no reason the only options are "daily driver" or "never driven." Just go drive around once or twice a week, or drive it to work on Fridays (if your commute is pleasant), or just make up an excuse to go for a Sunday drive.
I'll drive 30 minutes to get a coffee somewhere far just to hear it sing at redline a few times along the way. As others have said, owning a Ferrari is just lost opportunity cost for the most part. If you purchase them right cost of ownership is significantly less than a new Range Rover or luxury land yacht. As it sits, if I were to sell either of my F-cars, I'd walk away with a little profit. Considering that was never the intention or motive when purchasing, I can't complain.
Well stated. A good part of owning a Ferrari is getting to interact with lots of extraordinary people, who generally care about both the mark and the thrill of advanced driving. Getting a pilot's license is similar, except that everyone is fully qualified with flying.
