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Why was Schumacher such a poor starter?

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  1. P.Singhof

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    No, sarcastic eye roll does not show disapproval!!!
    I know what the smileys are, no need for explanation but if you want to show your disapproval with that post there are others... :( :eek: and angry (don´t know the shortcut)
     
  2. NeuroBeaker

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    Here are the codes and explanations: FerrariChat.com - Smilies

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  3. P.Singhof

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    This thread is lame.
     
  5. 4rePhill

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    Actually, posting something that is not meant to intentionally upset or offend other members, but does cause offence, such as inappropriate jokes about certain subjects, can be as restricted as posting remarks designed to intentionally cause upset or offence to other members.

    I stand by My previous post - Caligula knew he was playing with fire with his "joke", knowing it would cause offence to many on Fchat and create an outrage, along with possible abusive responses, but decided to post it anyway.

    As this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, and it has been dealt with by the moderators - That will be My last post on the matter.
     
  6. 4rePhill

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    It's got off to a very poor start! :p
     
  7. PSk

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    roflmao
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  8. rob lay

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    umm, you just proved you don't.
     
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  10. Eb110

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    Alonso is the best starter in f1 IMO. Verstappen close second. I don't remember Schumacher being a terrible starter (though he choked a start in Japan that cost him the WDC). Schumacher made average starts. If you're always on pole like the likes of Schumacher, senna, Hamilton and Vettel then all you can do is drop places so this type of stat favours those who do not qualify as well.
     
  11. furoni

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    From the curent guys i remenber Felipe being a very good starter...Max seems pretty good also....KImi sucks at it, and Elton is lame at best...
     
  12. P.Singhof

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    Without taking this too far I would say that posting a "sarcasm" emoji after an sarcastic comment is an indication that the sarcasm within this post is noted if not even approved...It is certainly not the emoji to post for telling someone that he went too far and that this is considered a bannable comment.
    And it looks like the guy is banned not for the comment itself but for the fact that he knew it would offend some people. Under these guidelines half of the users writing about their like/dislike of certain F1-drivers here would be banned as they exactly know what reaction their post will create in the other camp...
     
  13. Bas

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    This was a failure on Ferrari's part. There was an aborted start, Mclaren, Williams, Jordan etc all put the cooling systems on the cars again but for some inexplicable reason Ferrari didn't. As Schumacher put the car in gear before setting off the car jumped forward, an obvious failure. He didn't stall under pressure.
     
  14. Igor Ound

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    Alonso is the best off the line I've ever seen. His starts were incredible at Ferrari.
     
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    If we go a long way back, Alesi was an amazing starter..and so was Berger, none of them however came close to Gilles in that department.
     
  16. rob lay

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    it is predominately a "roll eyes", that's why it is called rolleyes.

    if you want to keep pushing it, then go ahead, I'm your huckleberry.
     
  17. Mulehead

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    Schumi liked over steer so he would've had that car with a setup that wasn't good for the standing starts
     
  18. ricksb

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    Wow....speechless at such a low attempt at humor.
     
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    If I'm reading it correctly, he was banned because he admittedly posted to ruffle feathers.
     
  20. DGS

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    Should we move half this thread to an "outrage" thread? ;)

    Michael was known for "der chop", where he tried to block on starts.
    This may have been a response for knowing that he wasn't great off the line.
    But it also wasn't the best way to get down the road quickly.

    Ferrari listed Felipe as one of their best ever starters, although that may not be too obvious to fans.
    Massa and Schumi seemed to often coordinate starts, with Massa acting to cover Shumi's back.
    That sometimes cost Felipe a position (or four) at the first corner, to protect Schumi from losing a place.

    In the post-Schumi era, Massa was good off the grid, but often wasn't in a good position at the first corner.
    But Massa, like Shumi, would do a lot of overtaking early.
    The new tire rules, where drivers had to protect their tires, worked against Massa's style.
    Schumi never had to make that transition.
     
  21. 4rePhill

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    As I've previously posted, I don't think Schumacher was exceptional off the line, but I don't think he was as poor at starting as the OP is suggesting. As with most drivers of his day, his starts were pretty mediocre on the whole (and as you rightly point out, when he made a mediocre/poor start, he made sure it didn't cost him too badly one way or another!)
     
  22. TifosiUSA

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    Schumacher was a decent starter in his first career and was quite good in his comeback. I always viewed starting as his only weak area which at Ferrari...everyone remembers the "Schumacher chop." That said I can't remember him ever losing many races because of bad starts. Even if someone would manage to get by he would simply own them on race pace so it rarely mattered.

    Alonso is amazing at the start of races and so is Mad Max
     
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    Michael Schumacher was so great at every other aspect of an F1 weekend I never really noticed these so-called "poor starts".
     

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