It looks very strange as then you should have a deduction for the original radio too, as the car leaved the factory without any radio: The radio was installed by the dealer together with his sticker. I think that having the OEM radio and sticker should be a plus, but it cannot be a minus! Ciao
Nice one John. Mine came out of SVM too. Lived in Sydney for only a year and then it moved to Melbourne. I know this as I have all the orginal sales documentation. Thanks to the help of a fellow F chatter I was able to track down an original SVM rear window sticker but have been reluctant to apply it as the car does well at Concorso events and I'm not crazy about losing half a point for it being displayed. Anyway it's nice to have with all the other original paperwork from the sale.
I agree with you Alberto, but if you check international judging rules you'll find it's a minus, not a plus!!
Here is a picture of my car at the 2015 Cavallino with the dealer badge next to the license plate. My car has been at Cavallino the last six years and it seems every other year I receive a half point deduction depending on the judge(s). I had the badge removed for the 2017 Cavallino event. Image Unavailable, Please Login
It seems the only after production addition to a car that IS allowed without a half point deduction is a Classiche badge that is issued with the red folder from the factory. This can be fitted either inside or outside the car.
The stickers are not original. They were not applied in the factory. As for radios that was a specific decision on the part of the rules board. The idea is the cars should be used and enjoyed and lack of radio prevents that for many. Any radio that does not detract from the car is OK. Dealers have been known to perform all manner of modifications on new cars. Different wheels, elaborate sound systems, even custom interiors or sun roofs. Where do you propose to draw the line?
The times it was not deducted for was simply a mistake. There is potentially a way around it though. You should be asked at the start if there is anything out of the ordinary about the car the judges should know. Since preservation is very important to us if you explain the sticker is from new and you are interested in preserving the car exactly as new they will probably let it go. We have a TR with a small American flag sticker in the windshield that I applied just before a club drive just a few days after 9-1-1. I told them it had sentimental value and I intended to leave it. They told me it would not be deducted for. The car won a Platinum, the Coppa Bella Macchina and the National Preservation Award that day.
Exactly. At the end of the day it's your car and you can do whatever you want with it. I agree that if you mention it prior, they may not deduct a half point but I guess it's judges discretion. Or if it was down to two cars with both 100 points they may use a non factory sticker or similar to separate the two.
I completely disagree. You don't buy the car from the factory, you buy from the dealership and so everything that comes from the dealership is original. The sunroof and others aren't a factory option: They are a mod. In any case I don't have to attend any FCA concourse so it doesn't matter, but in my opinion is a total absurdity. Ciao
It is not just FCA and pretty much the entire world disagrees with you. Have never heard of any recognized rules body defining original as what the dealer decided to do prior to delivery. That is everyone else's definition of absurd.
Does anyone on the off chance, have the dealership sticker for Melbourne Garage Car Sales Ltd, Jersey, Channel Islands? Would love to make a repro. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
A friend of mine has a lovely 365BB that was factory fitted with the 3 exhaust tips per side. Apparently the dealer offered and fitted a sports exhaust at the time that has two tips per side (like a 512BB) which was fitted once the car arrived into the showroom. By saying to the judges it was on the car when I drove it out new from the dealership so it must be original is not really correct and as a result points are always deducted. I have seen dealers do some nasty stuff to beautiful cars. Drilling holes and screwing on their own dealership logo badge into the rear bodywork of a car and in the 1980's drilling holes inside and out to fit mobile phones just to name two. Both of which would require bodywork and paint to get back to factory original today.
Thanks. Appreciate the input. I was fortunate the dealer badge was secured by adhesive tape which did not damage the paint or body as screws would have.
Thank you very much: But I will keep the dealership sticker on the car and the OEM radio too, as I'm very proud of both.