Force India can be transformed in Brabham

Yes, and maybe hire and put to good use Mercedes' reserve driver! It's not like Niki Lauda is doing much in the paddock atm

 

Olivetti didn´t get right the transition from typing machines to computers and now it´s not oriented to consumer products so advertising is not relevant for them. Parmalat got caught in a big financial fraud and can´t afford to sponsor a F1 team.

Brabham again? Personally I´m not reallly excited about another marketing gimmick like the fake Lotus. Also Force India has done enough to deserve a place in the grid. I thought that they´d only last one or two seasons just like their predecessors (Midland, Spyker), but I was totally wrong.

 

I think F-1 should institute a "franchise" system, so that there are more traditional names in the sport. Brabham, Lotus, BRM, Cooper, Alfa Romeo, Matra, Minardi, Tyrrel, etc... so if you want in, you have to buy one of the names. It makes sense and keeps the tradition that is F-1 alive.

the more championships that name won the more expensive the entry price, with the converse the same.

if you are a car company then you could be Brabham Honda... or something like that... obviously names of companies that are in production today would be still owned by them... and or would have 1st right of refusal...

 

Parmalat is massive.

Olivetti who knows

 

Force India can be transformed in Brabham ... BS, closed down more like. Brabham had it's day and it's over!

And yeah Bernie could fund every single team, handsomely, but that requires him to not be such a self centered wanker and actually spend some money. Won't happen. Somehow I'm sure he's found a way to take his money with him when he passes ... slimey bastard that he is!
Pete

 

The way Chase Carey has been slating Bernie this week, I'd say Bernie will be too busy sorting out an F1 rival series, with Ferrari being his number one target to get on board!

 

At 83 ?

I doubt it.

He will just spend the rest of his life criticising like the bitter man he is now.

Every dog has his day, and Bernie already had his.

 

What, like the Caterham Faux-Team Lotus fiasco we had in 2010~2011 that was such an insult to the proud history of Lotus F1?

Personally I think it's totally wrong for anyone with a bit of money to be able to buy the use of a famous name from the past such as Brabham/Tyrell/Hesketh/ligier etc., etc., and pretend that they're anything to do with the original teams.

If you want to be in F1, enter as your own team - Don't pretend to be a team that you're not in order to trade on their fame, because chances are, you'll be a complete insult to the name!

 

When it comes to Bernie - Never say: "Never!"

Even an old dog can give you a nasty bite if he's provoked enough - And right now, Chase Carey is doing some major provoking!

 

New broom sweeps clean.

Chase Carey has to justify his job, and do something different.

All new managers do the same; first demolish the achievements of their predecessors, then do something different, and that's not always successful.

I cannot see Liberty as having the interest of the sport at heart; for them, it's a money machine.

 

I still wonder if he could pull something like this off. Especially with Ferrari (They would be key IMO. Red Bull, Mclaren, Williams...they all want to fight Ferrari).

 

I pretty much agree, and to a degree, I believe Chase Carey has a point - in certain ways, Bernie did hold F1 back, but I think he has been very discourteous with how he has said it, and he has failed to take into account the parameters that Bernie was working to.

As for Liberty Media, so far, every time I hear any one of them talk about F1, it always seems to be about: "The show", and not: "The Sport".

The on-track racing seems to play second fiddle to the circus that goes on around the races, and Liberty Media seem determined to turn it all into a three ring circus, with an obsession around city races/demonstration runs.

You're totally correct, Liberty Media didn't buy the rights to promote F1 because they love the sport, they bought the rights because they smell a big profit making opportunity, and that's all that matters to them.

They need to be careful though, because if they upset the wrong people (Bernie and Ferrari for example), then their profit making opportunity could easily collapse around their ears!

 

Er, for Bernie F1 was a money machine. Nothing more and nothing less. He even stated that clearly recently and now realises that he went after the money at the detriment of the sport ...

Bernie needs to put his slippers on and fnck off!
Pete

 

It would be interesting to see!

In the old days, Bernie wouldn't have even hesitated to payback Chase Carey's comments by plotting (and succeeding in), Liberty Media's downfall!

It maybe too late now due to his age, but there again, as I say, when it comes to Bernie: Never say "Never!"

 

Liberty took over F1 because it saw an opportunity to make money.

It could have been hockey or fly fishing, as long as it can make money.

They never have been part of the sport before; they are just opportunistic businessmen.

 

Don't forget that Bernie has paid his dues to F1.

Before you see him as the greedy businessman that he is, remember that he also was a team player in his days.

Bernie bought and saved Brabham at the time, put money in the team and won championship.

Then he promoted F1 and made it a saleable proposition for sponsors, TV channels, turning it to a professional sport and probably the best series worldwide.

Of course he was ruthless and took his cut, but he also made a lot of people richer.

Yes, he did stay too long, and didn't arrange his succession.
Bernie was a motorsport enthusiast who saw an opportunity to develop a sport.

But what has Liberty done to F1? They have just bought a successful business with the intention to make money out of it, no more.

 

Every dictator, no matter how benevolent, gets run out of town in the end. Some above room temperature, some below. Bernie's no different. He's lucky to be going out with as much deference as he is getting. But, that's due to what he did for the sport, not how cuddly he was or wasn't.

 

If you think F1 will be run more democratically under Liberty, you may get a shock!!

 

It won't be democratic but at least not Bernie's ideas. He lost it about 10 years ago when he canned the USGP over peanuts

 

But what's so important about the US GP?

US circuits were not interested hosting it, and it was passed around like a hot potato nobody wanted to hold!

Watkins Glen, Detroit, Dallas, Ling Beach, Las Vegas, Indianapolis, etc...

 

A US GP is very important to the car manufacturers as the US is their #1 market

 

Fixed it. You forgot the commies. China is the place to be.

 

MAY 8, 2017

Ecclestone involved in Force India bid?



Bernie Ecclestone could be involved with a reported move to buy Force India.

That is the claim of one of the most experienced veteran journalists in the F1 paddock, Roger Benoit.

The long-time correspondent for the Swiss newspaper Blick referred to recent claims that Force India's controversial owners, Vijay Mallya and Subrata Roy, could be looking to sell.

Benoit said one rumoured plan is that Force India could become the "new Brabham team".

He said: "The big question is whether Bernie Ecclestone is behind it."

The reports suggest the bid is actually being fronted by the late Sir Jack Brabham's son David and a US consortium.

 

For luxury sedans like MB yes, for exotics like Ferrari and McLaren not. Very different consumer tastes there

 

If Bernie could put a deal together to buy F India at a fire sale price,maintain existing sponsor's,get a bigger slice of the F1 pie from 2018 ,and make a few (mio) quid out of it then why not ? Yeh he is getting on a bit ...

+ Eddie Jordan as Sporting Director = Dream Team?