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I don't understand Ferrari prices

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Texas Forever, May 5, 2017.

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  1. 308 milano

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    Larry Fletcher, CIS fuel injection rebuild. Two hours to unbolt and package (taking my time). Mail it out, total rebuild within two weeks, bolt on and go.. IIRC cost me about $400.
    Also a good guy to deal with. :)
     
  2. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    Your opinion, you're entitled to it.
     
  3. Themaven

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    This thread was originally about the price of this particular car, not the service.

    It's not particularly cheap for the market right now, and it's a US car that has been around the world. (Clicking on the link for a detailed history doesn't work for me). We are told it was serviced/engine rebuilt in the UK in 2015 but not how long it has been away. Given that no other countries have Carfax, it makes the claim of a clean Carfax redundant - it could have been chopped in half and rebuilt while in France (for example) and Carfax would be clean.

    Or it might be perfect..and then it's still not cheap, and given that more than twice as many Testas were built as 550s, no reason it wouldn't be cheaper than a 550.

    But I do agree with the title. There is no logic to Ferrari pricing for certain models, beyond the obvious logic of the market. Just like there is no logic to the pricing of much contemporary art, wine, or diamonds or...why is a Dino as expensive as a 430 Scuderia + a 308 GTB QV + a gated 355?
     
  4. etip

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    This is so true across all brands.
    Independents used to be a quality, low cost alternative to dealers, but nowadays, every independent we use for our BMW or Jaguar is the same cost as the dealer.
     
  5. tbakowsky

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    The only reason why that has changed, is because of the manufactures. The investment in scan tools, hard tooling etc is insane. It's seems every car different model car, requires an entire inventory of different tools inorder to service it. Take BMW for instance. N52 N54, N55, M63, S86 etc, all require a minimal investment of 400- 1000 bucks in specialty tools, if you want to get into the bigger more complex repairs. The N63 requires an 1100 dollar tool to change the valve seals.

    It seems everytime I turn around, we have to buy a new tool inorder to complet a job correctly. Never mind keeping the scan tools updated at 20k a year, never mind keeping our online tech info source subcriptions paid, etc. The payment for this stuff has to come from someplace. You can thank the car companies for the increased costs. They are the ones trying to push out the little guy, and it's working.
     
  6. Texas Forever

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    Yep. I think the difference is due to collectors versus drivers. I used to own a 330 GTC and a 550 Maranello. The GTC was a cool car, no doubt. But, when it came to driving? It was a no brainer, the 500 Maranello. The sad part is the majority of Ferraris never get driven. They just sit in a garage.
     
  7. boxerman

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    Agreed.

    You can drive these cars at 9/10ths or more endlessley and they dont break, many other fast cars wont last when used this way. Ferraris do require predictive mainatnace like a race car or aircraft. Try and service them like camry and some sub compoanats will break.

    The older cars can also be endlessly rebuilt as they are mostly handbuilt products to start with.

    355s 456 and 550's need more work than most, and many bits like coolant hoses are ridiculously expensive to replace as they may run under intake manifolds. I dont even want to think about what it will take to fix a broken 458 10 years from now.
     
  8. gmonsen

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    There is a big difference between the analog and digital cars in terms of reliability and ease of service. Some of the CIS cars are sort of middle ground. The purely analog cars ending with the carburetted Boxers and 308's are pretty bullet proof and require only a few specialty tools. The newest cars require expensive computer diagnostic tools that are out of reach for most Indy shops.
     
  9. rob lay

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    I forgot about your 330 GTC. Man my memory going. I do still remember you of course letting me hit 3 digits in your 550. :)
     

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