Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

Yes they would and still not bring more than say 5 points home by the end of the season but would spend the points money on new parts. Stroll....is not remotely impressive no matter the bank accounts behind him. He has zero potential to leave the back of the grid in another team.

 

Which ones ?

 

sauber, force india, williams (I wouldn't have listed them a year ago, but obviously now)
makes three. I am sure Haas and Renault wouldn't mind a good conversation either.

 

+1 Especially Sauber/Haas/Renault wouldn't hesitate at 30m.

IMO Williams has made a mistake as they could stand to lose more money than they're getting in return at the moment...I don't think they expected him to be so **** when they signed him up.

 

Sauber? probably, just to help their budget.

Force India? Often a nursery for promising talents under Mercedes or Renault's wings; they have taken drivers with sponsorship in the past, but Stroll doesn't bring that. He just pays for his seat and he is of unknown quantity for them.

Williams, he is already there. Let's see how long for ! The association isn't bearing fruits so far ...

Haas? They seem to be paying their drivers, not the other way around. Haas is trying to get midfield, and Stroll won't help doing that. Beside, I suspect that Haas isn't cash-strapped at all.

Renault? That is a factory team that wants to build its drivers strength, as they expect to develop the team into a front runner in future, and I doubt they would take a pay driver who wouldn't bring anything in terms of experience, talent and testing skills.

I could be wrong, of course, but apart from Sauber that's is resigned to play tail-ended, not many teams would jump to sign Stroll. Certainly not after his recent showing.

 

Williams already did it with Maldonado, but he was actually capable of winning a GP(their last win BTW).

 

No offense man, but if you don't want people to opine on your performance, you stay out of pro sports.

I know a lot of nice kids in racing too - some of them are fast and others are slow.

I still think Stroll may speed up, but I really don't like his comments after the accident in Monaco practice to be honest. It was pretty stupid to be blunt. I believe he said something to the effect of, "I just sort of sent the car in there and crashed." Sure - sometimes you find the limit by bouncing off the wall in Monaco, but his statement implies he took a huge bite and paid the price rather than being methodical about finding speed. Then he follows it up by saying that he can't master the turn in a video game either.

He has the best coaching and everything money can buy, so he will get the right information to correct his approach. The rest is up to him.

 

He has the best coaching and everything money can buy, so he will get the right information to correct his approach. The rest is up to him.[/QUOTE]

+1 nothing more to say

 

If Williams decide they would rather let Stroll go...no worries Papa could just pony up and buy F India.

Prema F1?

 

Suppose it's possible.

It's worth 225M per Forbes...that's 8% of his net worth. Over 100M a year to operate it, and it only pulls in roughly the same.

Not factoring in the increase in crash damage ; P

 

If Vj really has to offload more assets,it might end up as a fire sale.Vultures probably already circling above. Possibly even Bernie .

@crash damage LOL

 

What's worth 225M?

 

Force India

 

But with Stroll onboard the price drops to 125 M..

 

Does Stroll have any fans? Didn't think so…. Poor kid.

 

Can I be that poor kid? Just for a day would suffice

 

He said he was testing the limits and crashed because of it, "it happens", his words ....
Best comment was from Jackie Stewart who mentioned the kid would be well advised to stay away from the "limits" as far as he can.

 

Does all the money in the world buy you the best coaching?

 

The best coaching will not fix his own limitations. If he was in last years Mercedes with an equally terrible teammate, that'll mask his limitations, but not fix it.

 

I doubt it is a large line item for them.

A lot of F1 drivers probably don't have coaches at all.

 

If you need coaching, you haven't got it.

Speed comes from hunger and that hunger drives a driver to look for ways to find speed and try different lines, etc. This is done from their first years and over time they learn how to find speed.

You cannot train this.
Pete

 

Eh - true and not these days. Years ago - 100% true. Now, pretty much all the kids (and race teams) have coaching. Especially the best teams. Josef Newgarden has a coach - he's one of the best racers in the US.

Even Alonso had a coach for his trip to Indycar.

Feel in the car is natural, but there is no natural way to look at data and figure out how your teammate is going faster. You aren't always practicing together, so data analysis and coaching are very important these days to maximize performance. Even the engineers are a form of a coach in F1. If there is a guy telling you - you are 2mph down on your teammate in T5, or he is braking 50 feet later in T2 - then you are being coached. All these drivers are getting data like that.

 

Absolute nonsense. ALL the top drivers use coaches (although many are quite secretive about it) and you would be arrogant and foolish not to. The input an additional brain and set of eyes can contribute is significant and it shows no lack of talent to use one.

 

Meh . . . I bet you have a good life. Something tells me you wouldn't be that impressed being baby Stroll.

 

Data coaching, point taken and not what I meant. You can't suddenly decide you want to be a racing driver and then be coached to a WDC IMO.

Pete