Installed Fabspeed headers and cat-delete pipes ... now too loud

Steve, i think it sounded pretty liveable with those resonators installed. Sounds good

 

You may not have a choice but to get your computer's reprogrammed. I Next Day Air mine to Mase Engineering in Florida and I had them back the next day. Let him know everything you've done and he'll hook you up

 

I switched to Fabspeed Headers, Hyperflow sport cats, w/ Fabspeed 02 extenders, through TUBI exhaust I get those codes EVERY time I drive now. My mechanic tried several configurations of extenders, including the "mini" cats ones....nothing kept the codes from returning.
Codes usually seem to trigger in 6th gear when the engine is not under much load (hwy speeds), but not exclusively.
I'd rather not switch back to stock cats, as it does sound way better, and seems to run cooler (have the Fabspeed blankets too).

 

Good that you are happy. Only a tune will get rid of the CEL after you've tried all that you have. It does sound good. I thought my resonated 360 sounded good. The comments from others made me swap to sports cats. Maybe get some one do do a drive by in your car and you have a listen, or see what others think. Cars sound way different on the inside.

 

you made the right choice if you wanted to use vibrant products. those mini race mufflers do nothing..they are primarily intended for race cars where the rules require use of a muffler...however they dont really do much. same with the cats. most cats are pretty expensive, the vibrant ones are nearly free. they dont do a whole lot. the resonators make the biggest difference of all of those choices.

 

All done.... It was actually perfect timing... my pre-cat material was not attached inside the headers anymore, and particles were being blown into the main cats.
We cleaned and saved the main cats and replaced the OEM headers now obsolete with Fabspeed sports headers and blankets (have to contain that temperature in the engine bay!).

The rest of the set-up (main cats and muffler) is OEM.

I can report that it sounds very close to standard at idle. nothing bad or uncivilized.
It revs up quicker. In my case because of the damaged pre cat out of the way, the power come quicker (ASR active more often).
Now when you give it the full treatment... man, it is scary! I found tunnel, downshifted 2 gears and floored it. I scared the bejesus out of myself (windows down, of course!), and was wondering if cops from across town where looking for me. This thing is proper loud, closer to F1 pitch noise above 6-7k rpm...

I wouldn't want it different. Maybe with this set-up it is more like the euro spec'ed cars (no pre-cats). I am loving it.

Looking forward to more driving.

 

Bisel I am just not sure what happened with your sound. I think it might be nearly impossible to not get great sound out of a Ferrari. I had zero difficulty per this vid. I do hope you did get it dialed in.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkP_u-gt4w[/ame]

 

Yeah, same mods. I am really happy with the result too. I additionally tuned the ECU's to suit the mods. The power gains are actually significant, which was my ultimate goal beyond the rich upgraded sound.

Lucky us.

 

nice

 

Hi guys, just came up on this thread -- I have a 360F1 with a Tubi...

Looking to get a little better (louder) sound out of it but hopefully not obscenely loud and maybe reduce engine bay temps and reduce risk of the standard cats going bad - car has 29K miles.

Any recommendations? Vibrant Performance resonators seem like a good choice but is there any solution with the CEL?

What about test pipes with O2 extenders, has there been any solution that has been showed to work?


Thanks so much!

 

I had a Tubi on my 360 with resonated pipes. Constant CEL's. Went to sports cats and no more CEL's. Sounded better too.

 

I can confirm that is exactly what will happen. Just went through this hassle myself. Hopefully a tuner can chime in here and see if there is a way around all this.
The holy grail would be a tune that allows you to run fully catless, turns off the CELs but does not turn off 'catalyst monitoring' and allows the ECU to report the catalyst monitor as 'READY'.
I'm not sure why this is such an issue with Ferraris.... that behavior is exactly what I have in my subaru and lamborghini and never have issues with it.
I wonder what would happen if you threaded an o2 extender into a mini cat and basically doubled the length from the exhaust flow. Someone should try that.
Right now my CS exhaust is completely stock but I'm itching to at the very least get rid of the header precat. It's way too big of a liability. Undecided at this point whether to do hyperflow cats or test pipes and I will likely keep the stock CS muffler/tips.

 

Who did your tune?

 

Mase. My understanding is this isn't a tuner-specific issue, I've read plenty people who have had the same results with all the major tuners.
I think it's more an issue within the Ferrari ecu setup.

 

Well,,,, That's not good. I was told it wasn't an issue with Mase tunes? This may change my plans......

 

Your mileage may vary, I would ask him directly and see hwat he says. He would certainly know a lot more than I would about this topic.