2017 Formula One Season ***Possible Spoilers***

If he survives the next couple of years he'll be the next WDC, but his driving into people sometimes is questionable

 

Come on aircon, coulthard is to useless, he still SMILES when people ask him about the spa incident with Michael and claims he was in the right, and Michael driving into him was his own fault, he should apparanetly have expected the car being lapped to be allowed to be on the racing line if he wanted to be (despite zero visibility and a massive difference in speed because he was frightened of the rain). I will believe my own eyes over his. Vettel made the place, Maxine pushed him off to get it back and keep it, then, in the following laps, his movement under braking was ridiculous - I'm surprised vettel didnt lose his rag and tip him around at the cost of a wing just to teach him a lesson. I used to do it in saloon cars and on motorcycles regularly

 

I thought it was pretty obvious that Seb forced him off the track first. I would say that Seb seems to be the protected species given his past infringements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IugM9ZQo3w

 

Looked like the typical Dutch treat from Max to me after Vettel and he both went off the track

I'm no fan of Vettel's but I think he was wronged in this incident

 

I don't like Max. He's a "I'll smash you off the track before I'll concede a position person" ... somebody I would not want to race with or against.

Probably never heard of the word sportsmanship ...
Pete

 

He's dutch !!!

Leave him alone .... he knows what he's doing

I agree :-|

 

Initially, Vettel could have left Max plenty of room so that they both remained on track. As I said he forced Max off track, there is nowhere for him to go.
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...compared to Seb who deliberately drives into the side of other cars?

 

We'll I didn't think there was much in that particular incident but yeah I would not have wanted to be in Webers shoes a few years ago ...

But I think Max is madder!
Pete

 

There was plenty of room for Max.


Behind Seb.

 

The pass was done by Vettel. He did everything as I, or you guys, would have. The problem is modern F1 tracks have track surface everywhere and that means Max could keep his foot in.

This is wrong, there should be kerb and then grass and Max would have spun or lost ground.

Honestly, every decision F1/FIA make sends the sport backwards. With these stupid, track surface everywhere, tracks you cannot pass and encourage drivers to be *****s like Max was IMO. If you want to block a pass you don't let the guy up the inside, once that door is open you have ****ed up ... as Max did.
Pete

 

Exactly.
The original pass was entirely legitimate. Seb had Max fair and square but he just went very wide with his foot flat and emerged further down the track in front. Try doing that at Monaco.
How he got away with it I'll never know. I was waiting for him to be told to give the place back but it never happened - probably because it was Max.

 

Can't view it

 

The pass by Seb wasn't legitimate. Seb made contact and exceeded the track limits in order to make the pass. He forced Max wide with no where to go.

"Drivers will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with it and, for the avoidance of doubt, any white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not."
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Didn't realise they actually hit wheels, thought it was close.

 

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Neither did I.

Vettel should have done what v8-stupid-cars do and given the inside rear, of Max's car, a gentle tap when right on the limit of grip in a corner. It is often the only way they ever make a pass


I used to race an Alfa Sud many, many years ago and it used to drive me to Vettel type rages being stuck behind slower cars. A Sud can take fast sweepers ridiculously fast but not if stuck behind some Australian v8 piece of ****, like a Holden Monaro or Ford GTHO. The problem is if I could not take the sweepers at full pace I'd get considerably smaller in their rear view mirror by the end of the next straight. By the end of the lap I'd be right back up with them and was loosing time again ... errr!!!! Of course off the start line I'd get destroyed too as it was hopeless being front wheel drive, after out qualifying them by seconds ...


So yeah I watched that race frustrated that Max was permitted to block all race long.
Pete

 

What's the fact that they touched got to do with anything?

If that de-legitimises any move there'd be virtually no passing at all.

Seb had that pass. Max kept the place by going miles off track and keeping his foot to the floor.
He should have been made to give it back.

The end.