Infinity's latest show-car Talk about Retro..... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The back looks more aerodynamic than the front but it is silver so all is not lost! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Now that you have been up close and personal with the new 812 what do you think of what Mr Manzoni did this time?
Trying to make that stupid grille relevant by rewriting history - give it up and give us a break Nissan. It's such an unnatural shape that they couldn't even (bother to ?) match the grille bar elements with the grille opening.
I really want to like the car, but it's so complex it would never make me happy. It's a very complex design solution, front, side & rear. Too much so for me. And I LOVE the tricoat yellow Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks for the perspective on the 812SF. Another big 2018 coupe is the Lexus LC 500. Any thoughts on how that Newport Beach project turned out? Unlike some projects the 2012 show car design seemed to mostly translate into the street car version. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Who started the 'floating roof' idea? I see Aston Martin and even Nissan doing this great divide between the lower body and the roof. Is there some style benefit or is it just a trend?
Interesting contrast to the 812. The Lexus is by far my favorite Toyota/Lexus. It's the only Toyota/Lexus I would ever consider as a possible purchase candidate. If I could get past it's face. The showcar did translate into the production car, but my guess is that it was done after the production design was complete. Having said that, it is quite complex in it's execution. The bodyside form vocabulary breaks many traditionalist rules of simplicity and purity of form.......but I like it. It's the grille that just stops me dead in my tracks.Try as I might, I can't ignore it. I try to like it but it's too much for even me, and I like bold design statements. It wouldn't have taken much to have used a bit more restraint on the face. For all the complexity, though, like I said, I like the car. It certainly breaks new ground as a statement. It is complex, yet compelling. Compare the Corvette, 812, Maserati, Aston Martin,Jaguar, et al, and I put the lexus near the top for beauty and design execution. That's some pretty heady competition.
John great insight there regarding the complexity of that LC 500 design. There are a lot of details going on but they seem to co-exist in a more refined way than the 812 design effort. (imagine doing a metal stamping die to make that metal door skin for the 812!) Even that point of contention, the LC 500 front grill details change shape from top to bottom. I like the LC 500 design partly because it is a big change of direction for Lexus styling... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I was going to say the same thing, it is the only Lexus that doesn't suck! I worked on the showcar extensively, and it definitely was not done after the production design (just look at the number of years between showcar and production car ). I was really surprised how much of the showcar was translated effectively to the production car, especially considering that the showcar was a 2 seater!
Going out on a limb here design-wise, but I really like the chunky simplicity of this old banger. IMHO it's too bad that Ol Shel had to have that Aurora-bortion of the Shelby Mk 1 instead (tho I've misplaced the relative timeframes...maybe the 'bortion was earlier?) Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks. I wish I could say I had more to do with how it looks but it was pretty much one guys vision (for the exterior).
Point taken, I had not seen that Renault before. I can see why dcmetro is not a fan of 80's design! Even silver can't help that Renault... Image Unavailable, Please Login
John some very interesting LC 500 details about what was done and when; especially the original 2 seater concept idea. The 2 + 2 arrangement is not easy to perfect while maintaining the original look. Chevrolet tried it with the 1963 Stingray and it didn't go into production. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
