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$3,750 process & handling

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  1. jjmalez

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  2. Jdubbya

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    You get everything that used to be included in the price of the car. It's just another fee to help the dealer make more money. Here in WA the auto dealers lobbied long and hard and finally got a $150 documentation fee added to ever car sale. EVERY car sale. But what they don't tell you is it's not a mandatory fee, it's optional for the dealer to charge it but why wouldn't they since they are allowed.
     
  3. AceMaster

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    You get exactly nearly four large less in your wallet.
     
  4. Enzojr

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    It was listed as ADP.
    Which is additional dealer profit ;)
     
  5. amenasce

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    prep and handling fee for $4k sounds like they will throw a party for you when you come pick it up with Michael Jordan in attendance and free booze.
     
  6. Dave rocks

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    It's basically the shipping cost from Italy. Last I knew, all cars have that broken out but it's usually around $500 :)
     
  7. toggie

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    Typically I think this covers stuff like:
    - overseeing the car clearing US Customs.
    - lot storage pending transport pickup
    - shipping on the transport truck to the dealership
    - taking the protective plastic coverings off the inside and outside of the car
    - wash and wax
    - screwing the license brackets on (or throwing the front bracket into the front trunk).
    - walking the owner through the car's functions on day of delivery.

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  8. phrogs

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    I recall a fee on one of my Marines motorcycles he bought brand new. There was a $500 assembly fee We figured out all the did was uncrate the bike and install the windshield, like 4 screws.

    Oh and that was well over a decade ago. So I made sure the kids bought bikes elsewhere that didn't rape them on stupid fees.
     
  9. TheMayor

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    Shhhhh! Don't complain or next year it will be 10 grand!
     
  10. Ak Jim

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    Strippers and blow, and a lot of it!
     
  11. robert biscan

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    I think it is bull. Your paying for the car and it's overhead for the dealership to get it ready for you to pick it up. It is their cost to do business and should come out of their profit on the car.
     
  12. WJGESQ

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    Fantastic value and ROI?
     
  13. wildcat326

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    Here's the reality:

    - Ferrari knows that someone who can afford a $250k car can afford a $300-350k car.
    - Advertising a car as $250k is a lot less psychologically intimidating than $350k.
    - Ferrari, in its corporate RACE incarnation, now wants to use every underhanded trick in the book to maximize their profits per unit sold. As such, they now claw back a percentage of dealer revenues and assess their dealers fines for selling a car with less than $35k in "optional" extras, prompting dealers to custom spec the hell out of cars in advance and sell them to wait-listed folk willing to accept the upcharge options.
    - These new models routinely command more than $100k over sticker when they're first released, as buyers are willing to shell out rather than custom order their own and wait two years.
    - Result: Buyers don't complain because they have no choice/don't care/may not even notice an extra line item that amounts to 1% of the purchase price.
     
  14. Ingenere

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    You get snubbed by the sales staff, questioned on any warranty claims, bent over for parts and service and generally offended. But for some reason we still love these cars!
     
  15. ttforcefed

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    the guys are just trying to earn a living - everyones gotta eat
     
  16. Tricycle

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    Everyones gotta eat...White Pearl Albino Caviar, lobster, White truffles, Kopi Luwak Coffee, Swallows’ Nest Soup, Japanese Wagyu Steaks, Moose cheese, Dry-Cured Iberian Ham, Bluefin Tuna, and crunchy peanut butter
     
  17. Jack-the-lad

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    -repairing the shipping damage that they don't tell you about
     
  18. Dave rocks

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    I'm only speculating here (It's been a while since I bought a new car), but is that charge broken out perhaps as it's exempt from sales tax?
     
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    In Illinois, unless it's a tax already or a license fee, NOTHING is exempt from sales tax on the sale of a car.
     
  20. TTR

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    Perhaps best to ask the dealer, but I'd imagine you get delivery, process, prep & handling.
     
  21. Michael RPM

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    Only the Doc Fee is taxable in Illinois.
     
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    1) Assume the position.
    2) Liberally apply KentuckY jelly.
    3) Drive off in your new Ferrari!
    May the horse (manure) be with you!
     
  23. boiseferrari

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    This isn't accurate. If it's listed directly on the sticker it goes to the manufacturer not the dealer. This is to ship the car from Italy and customs. All cars delivered in the United States are required to list the shipping cost on the Monroney sticker. It's also federally mandated that the shipping/destination fee for every car be identical in the lower 48. So every 2017 488 has the exact same shipping fee. These fees vary by model and manufacture and are deemed to be the average for shipping that model to all dealers across the country. So for example a 2017 Subaru Outback has a $995 destination and delivery charge at the dealer across the street from the Indiana factory and a $995 destination and delivery fee at a dealer in San Diego. This does exclude special shipping methods (I.e. Air Freight) This money doesn't go to the dealership. Now you are correct aboit the dealer documentation/processing fee. That does go to the dealership. Every State does have different laws regarding the Doc fee. In Washington it isn't a mandatory fee and is negotiable. They have a set price on the fee also. However, I sell in Idaho and there is no set fee and dealerships are free to charge whatever they want up to $299. The difference is in Idaho of a dealer charges a customer a $150 Doc fee they mustn't charge all customers the same fee. If they charge one customer a $150 Doc fee and the next $299 all subsequent deals must be charged $299. If an Idaho dealer doesn't charge a Doc fee on one deal or charges less to a customer then they had charged previously they are in violation of the law and must refund the Doc fee to every customer back to the previous deal with the lower Doc fee. If the don't collect a Doc fee at all on one deal and they had previously collected $299 from the last 1,000 cars sold they must refund $299,000. That's why you'll never get it waved in Idaho. I don't personally like the Doc fee because it can be a hassle but I also don't own a dealership. Anyway, I hope this helps.
     
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  24. obbob

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    That $4000 fee is just an astronomically high documentation fee pretty much. Extra cash for the dealer at little to no effort. It's not the same as the "Destination Fee" you see on new cars, which is non-negotiable.

    Since this GTB is a used car, the initial Destination Fee has already been paid for by the original owner. For you to be paying it again is just a sham. It's not like the car gets shipped back to Italy every time it's traded in.
     
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  25. dstacy

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    EXACTLY!
     

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