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Would this be normal? Or send car to dealer

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Mastabenzo, Jan 9, 2017.

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  1. Mastabenzo

    Mastabenzo Karting

    Jul 10, 2015
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    Was driving last weekend and noticed that the front driver side tire temperature was way higher then the rest of the tires. Didn't get any warning lights so was wondering, anyone knows if his is normal or a malfunction? Is it something to ignore or send the car to the dealer. Maybe just replace the tire pressure sensor?

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  2. Ski Bum

    Ski Bum Formula 3

    Jun 19, 2012
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    Very common. Related to the placement of the radiators.
     
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  3. Mastabenzo

    Mastabenzo Karting

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    Hi Ski, very interesting guess there is nothing for me to worry about then. So most 458 have the front driver wheels running at much higher temp?


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  4. Viperjoe

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    With all due respect, this doesn't sound normal to me. If it were me, I'd look for the cause. My car is likely in the garage for the next couple months but I'll keep an eye on tire temperatures the next time I take a spin.
     
  5. Ski Bum

    Ski Bum Formula 3

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    You should do that. Don't be shocked when the driver's side front gets 5 degrees warmer when the car has run for a while. Check prior threads. This is not the first time that this difference has been noted.
     
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  6. vincep99

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    Your ambient temp is 51 and the other 3 tires are ~ 90, indicating that the pic was taken after having driven the car. A good check of the sensors would be to check before you drive off at all; the sensors should all read within a couple of degrees and also the radiator will not have had a chance to affect the temp.
     
  7. YellowMurci

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    Maybe that tire has a fever? Its going around...
     
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  8. spiders

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    #8 spiders, Jan 10, 2017
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    Each of the cold-tire temperatures indicated by a properly calibrated monitoring system should be the same or within plus or minus one degree. If the temperatures of cold tires exhibit significant differences, then you may have a bad sensor or other problem with the system.

    As the car is started up and then driven, expect that all tire temperature will rise. The amount of the rise in temperature is not the same for all tires. The driver side front tire will nominally be a few degrees higher than the other tire temperatures. My experience is that the magnitude of difference between driver side front tire temperatures and other tire temperatures is greater on very hot days. This is likely the effect of the proximity of the driver front tire to the radiator, with the greater amount of heat that is being dissipated by the radiator and streamed onto the surface of the tire.

    If there is a significant difference in tire temperatures then consider other causes of elevated tire temperature. If you have concerns, consult your Ferrari service department.
     
  9. AlfistaPortoghese

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    Have you tried to recalibrate the system? Procedure is described on owners' manual.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
  10. Viperjoe

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    The photo shows that the temperature difference between the RR and the LF is 22 degrees. You're right, I'll be flat-out shocked.
     
  11. Ski Bum

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    Prepare to be shocked. The fronts run much warmer than the rears. In fact, the pictagram (visible in the VDA in Race) turns to green at a lower temperature for the rears than the fronts.
     
  12. vincep99

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    My track instructor said that on all cars, the left front is always warmer than any of the others because it gets the highest loading. He was referring to cars w/o a radiator like our 458, so with ours it would be even higher. I can't see though how this loading would apply to the street.

    Nonetheless, a difference of 22 degrees is a lot, especially at an ambient of 51 degrees. Did you try a recal?
     
  13. 458dreamer

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  14. Jackp6

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    So after driving the car for 30-45 highway minutes (minimal braking) what is the “normal” temperature range?
    Mine runs about 130 -140F in the front 120’ s in rear ,seems too hot to me but no alarms are going off. The outside temp was high 80’s. Maybe fellow 458 drivers can confirm or let me know what their temperature range is after driving for 30 minutes.
     
  15. IanC

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    That seems normal for a 458. In the 488 the temps seems closer but the left is always a bit warmer. I always assumed it was my weight on that side of the car causing the difference.
     
  16. Melvok

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    I am happy that I don't have that TPI system :D
     
  17. Jackp6

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    Yes it higher on driver side, but what reading are you guys getting after driving about 30 minutes?? Wish I did not know either since now I wonder if 150F is too high?
     
  18. Doctor Mark

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    Temperature difference is normal
     
  19. hmfic1

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    same with mine, LF always 10 to 20 degrees higher the the rest, specially on long drives in warm weather. Ask dealer and the also said normal for 458
     
  20. tobewiser

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    Can anyone here confirm whether the temperature reading is actually real and is transmitted by a sensor (TPMS) or is the reading a software-calculated figure based on the differences over time of pressure changes as referenced by the actually measured ambient outside temperature (by the sensor under the driver side mirror)? Does the TPMS actually transmit temperature along with pressure inside the tires? I have doubts that it actually does as almost all TPMS transmitters only report pressure and not temperature.
     
  21. Melvok

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    Oepps ... you may have a good point here ...
     

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