Anyone have any recommendations on where to get a PPI done on a 360 near Costa Mesa? Thanks in Advance, Greg
There seem to be quite a few shops around Orange County, but it might help to eliminate conflict of interest by disclosing any shop(s) associated with recent maintenance/service of the car, if known, of course.
I tend to like D'elegance Detailing 619-718-0031 (leave a text or voicemail if he doesn't pick up). He also provides a thorough report to the cars aesthetic condition which is something worth looking into as much as the mechanical aspects. He has saved me quite a bit of money over the years. I know he is quite busy right now prepping cars for sema. So be patient.
^^^This. If you enjoy proper business ethics and attention to detail. This is all you need in life lol.
Just to clarify, D'elegance only does aesthetics. You will need someone else for mechanical. Your post read to me that he does both.
He does both aesthetics and mechanical. So if you needed both he can take care of it for you. In my experience it is equally important to have both done.
Trust me, Roger (D'Elegance) does not do mechanical. He was just at my house for four days working on a car, and this was one of the things we talked about. I suggest giving him a call to clarify if the OP is interested. That said, Roger is a terrific guy and does meticulous work.
He too has done quite a few of my vehicles over the years. Maybe I should have clarified, he works with certified technicians in their field to provide the mechanical PPI portion. He can also travel on your behalf to PPI a car you are interested in and he does the leg work as far as getting a legit technician to provide a complete mechanical PPI. I remember there have been times where I was not able to take time off to fly to where the vehicle was but he has done it for me. Thanks for making sure there was clarification. Roger is definitely a honest guy who puts out amazing work. It is hard to find that these days and he is a rarity. If you do not mind me asking which car did you have him do?
That makes more sense, and he told me he did a PPI for someone recently at a shop. For me, he did a paint correction and Feynlab self healing sealant on my 456. He does travel, I am in LA, he is in San Diego, so I told him not to get a hotel and he moved in while he was working on the car. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Wow! That is some shine right there! That finish looks amazing! I am super jealous cause that coating option came out after I got my cars done. Next time I am getting that self heal stuff cause I have heard nothing but great things! You definitely got a quality job done. Did you get any of your other cars done? If so what kind of coating did you decide to do on them?
This was the only car with the Feynlab. It costs a premium, but I don't think I would use anything else if I do another one. We'll see after some time if the coating is as good as their marketing says it is.
Quality and cheap usually don’t go in the same sentence. Congrats on a beautiful finish and quality coating. The problem is the coatings I got already are good quality and I don’t think they will ever wear off. If they do I certainly want to get the Feynlab self heal next. Otherwise the next car I add will be getting the self heal.
You can call Ryan at Protective Film Solutions. You should drop by the shop and get a feel for the type of cars and services he offers. https://protectivefilmsolutions.com/
No offense to that shop cause it is a really nice shop and they do a lot of cars. I have been there as well as many other high volume shops and I tend to find that most or all of the work that is being performed is by workers that are fairly new to detailing, or it gets outsourced to veterans in the field and they up-charge for the service. Essentially the owners which sometimes are the masters in their craft do not ever perform the work once they have that kind of volume of cars. I tend to find that most high volume shops their QC tends to decrease. My personal experiences have been that I get the best quality of service with a non high volume shop. But to each their own.
Understood. I have visited their shop and spent time with the owner. Ryan has been doing this a long time. He cannot do all of the work himself (in fact he does very little). I brought one of my cars to him for a paint correction/full clear bra. I was happy with my experience. Have you used them and what issues did you have? Not trying to be argumentative, but I'm planning on taking another car there and want to know if there's anything I should be concerned about.
I personally have been in the automotive world for quite some time. I can only tell my personal experiences and the last thing I want to be is argumentative or start some sort of pissing contest. One thing I have learned over the years is detailing is something that is not my forte and neither is it to many other people out there. I was one of those who would take someones review as gospel when in fact they had no idea what they were talking about. A lot of the reviews were done based off of the misinformed customers who did not really know a good job from a bad one if it sat in their laps, and then you had those who just wanted to post a good review to try and justify their purchases. All this I learned the hard way. After many years and many heartaches is when my eyes were opened for the first time when I met D'elegance Detailing. I personally have only been to the San Diego location. I have not visited the OC location. My experiences were that of observing fairly new people in the industry working under a popular business name. I have noticed a fairly high employee turnover. I also tend to notice that employees who are compensated with a relatively low hourly wage tend to cut corners and/or do not have the knowledge and experience to properly assess and execute a detail. Furthermore, not many businesses are certified to utilize more than 1 or 2 coatings/films and they will preach to you the brands they use are the very best? Why? Because of the pure fact they carry it. Why would they say their brands aren't the best? Also how would they know if they have never used any others? I do know all of the detail work is outsourced. The PPF installs are also outsourced to an installer. So essentially you pay a premium just because you go to a high volume shop. Not saying that is good or bad just stating the facts. Now as far as the OC location, I have not been there. However, I do know some information. What is ironic is it is a small world. I found myself in the OC area needing a quick wash. But I wanted a proper wash and not a cheap car wash and was willing to pay for it. I called my detailer D'elegance to point me in the right direction because I did not know who to go too up there. And seeing as he trains other detailers he would know someone up here. He told me the shop to go too since he trains the team up there. Now being the curious guy I am I look them up and they have numerous 5 star reviews on yelp and other social media outlets. I go there and while I am there they have this guy working on a car doing PPF. Long story short come to find out he is the guy PFS uses to do their PPF as well. And then apparently they outsource a lot of the ceramic coating details. They do have employees that do some detail work but they are usually fairly new and inexperienced. My detailer has been in the industry for around 20 years. He has been using coatings since they came out. He is the only one I know who carries something like 6 or 7 professional grade coatings and a few amateur coatings. He also can get any PPF brand you want. He pushes suntek because he really likes the overall quality and customer service of the brand. But he can get any brand you want. If you want a no BS assessment this is the guy to talk too. Before I met him I was using another very well known shop. I called him because I was referred by one of my friends. He did not even try and take my business from that shop. He was just genuinely concerned about the details on my cars. He even compelled me to go back to try and see if they can fix it. After a couple of failed attempts with that shop; I just told him to come over and do it. Not only did he fix everything, but my vehicles never looked better! You can clearly tell the difference between a detailer who is fairly new working for a shop, and a detailer who is very seasoned who owns the business. He also has tools I have never heard of before. He has this thing called a gloss meter. It costs like 4 grand or something. It measures the amount of gloss units your paint surface is emitting. I mean nobody else is using stuff like this let alone nobody ever even thought to use these things. Lastly, if you care about things like integrity and quality then as far as I am concerned there is only 1 option. But again to each their own this is just my experience. If you do go to PFS please let me know how it went. Either way I wish you and your vehicles the best.
Prancinghorse619, your guy sounds like a fine Detailer. However, the topic of the thread is having a PPI done near Costa Mesa. I would never have a Detailer do a PPI. You need an knowledgeable mechanic with all the latest equipment.
As I have explained previously a proper PPI should contain both a mechanical and aesthetic inspection. My detailer works with certified technicians in their respective fields to complete the mechanical portion. However, even though he is a detailer he has a pretty firm grasp on mechanicals. But again he has a technician who completes the mechanical portion.
Frankly Prancinghourse619 you are preaching insanity. That is like saying my gardener does a great job of cleaning my driveway that my car drives over and so he is qualified to go out and get a PPI. A good mechanic can identify the cosmetic issues that a detailer can and the detailer can identify none of the mechanical issues that a mechanic can, he doesn’t have the requisite training or equipment. So a mechanic is crucial, a detailer is not. Also, when you get a PPI you want to sit with the mechanic and go over the report and ask questions and understand the scope of the inspection and all the potential issues with the car. How do you do that when you have your detailer/gardener send it out to some unknown mechanic? At the end of the day any non professional can go and get someone to provide PTI but the original post was looking for a recommendation of somebody good and qualified to perform a PTI, not a Detailer who could find somebody.
Not sure how that happened with previous post. Ron H, I am not preaching anything. You do whatever floats your boat bud. I am just here to tell my personal experiences. I have never had any issues with any PPI I have received. And no the mechanic can not always identify all cosmetic issues a detailer can. And neither are they equipped for it. But that is fine because that is not their area of expertise. Every PPI I have ever gotten from him I am able to contact him and the certified tech to discuss anything I want. Both contact infos are annotated on the PPI. All I am saying is if you want to source your own tech that is fine. OP asked for a PPI I simply provided him with an option. An option that has been very effective for me and many other people. I get what you are saying. And honestly that is completely fine. And if that works for you then awesome!
