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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator Moderator

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    Well, he's right about modern cars. There are many older cars I adore purely because of their aesthetics and very few modern cars I think look good. I was actually just ranting about that in Silver Subscribed (link).

    All the best,
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    :eek:
     
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    Isn't that the definition of a Lamborghini?






    (sorry Roy, I'll just go now.....);)
     
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    The car was developed with MIT
    Must be some obscure technical reason ;)
     
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    Andrew, want to commend you for seeing the underlying design. There was a Director of Design that was noted as having the ability to see past all the fancy rendering and other eye catching techniques to find the best design "on the wall". This was not an attribute that all such design leadership exhibited around the industry were known for.
     
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    Andrew calls them as he sees them
     
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    I've been paying attention to you and John over the last couple of years. ;)

    This thread really is great, I think more deeply about design and appreciate good designs far more than I ever did before.

    I can't really argue with you there. :D

    All the best,
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    Great.

    I happen to like the new Lamborghini, but I guess I’m in the minority here.......:eek:
    Automotive masterbation..........;)
     
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    That's ok, we still love you. :)

    All the best,
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    :)
    Nuthin’ subtle about that ride..
     
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    i like it as well, but in context to modern design and the language of lamborghini.
     
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    So I did an informal survey at school today, and the students overwhelmingly disliked the new Lambo/MIT car. Shocking from my perspective!!!

    So I thought I would explain my positive response to the car. Rather than a knee-jerk reaction of 'i like it' or 'i don't like it'
    I have a set of criteria I try to judge all new designs with:
    It looks like a Lamborghini and is instantly recognizable.
    It moves their design philosophy/form vocabulary forward, rather than rehashing the past.
    It looks new.
    It thumbs it's nose at convention and 'spits on the table'
    Is it beautiful in the conventional idiom? Absolutely not! Beauty in the traditional sense? No.
    Is it 'pretty? No.
    I still dig it, and I haven't liked any of the Lamborghini showcars from the last several years. Go figure :eek:
    Over & out...
     
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    Perhaps an interesting exercise for these students would be to "improve" the body design to their liking. Part A might be to make the car "clean" and Part B might get into major "modifications" to the design (proportions, bulges, fins, etc.) Not knowing what tools (software) the students might have available, this could even be done using old school ways such as Xerox machine, white out, and lead pencils. Just a suggestion.
     
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    They have all the state of the art tools and software. Don’t know about the old school approach ;)
     
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    A few months ago, Jerry shared an anecdote about that:


    However, having said that, the basic form of the car doesn't look original to me. Maybe it doesn't look original to the students either? The detailing in the styling is unique (and hideous), but the basic form reminds me of the generic animated "spaceship" or bonus cars you'd get in many driving games after you'd unlocked it by hitting a certain performance goal in your Lamborghini Diablo SV.

    I can just see that thing now in PlayBox WiiStation X-Cube's new release of Need For Forza Speed Racing Pursuit 19, taking off from a powerslide over a ramp to hit a floating digital powerup to activate the jet thrusters... :oops:

    All the best,
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    Honda introduced their car for Sony's Gran Turismo 6 Racing. This is pretty conservative compared to some of the o
    i love your analysis!
    But I still respectfully beg to disagree, and that’s OK. ;)
     
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    Fair enough. :)

    I still wonder though, did the students agree with you on the point about originality?

    All the best,
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    They didn’t articulate their dislike. I will probe more this coming week to get a better idea of why they dislike the car. Like most people they just said ‘I don’t like it’ or ‘I do like it’. Not too cerebral! :) I didn’t press the issue.
     
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    As an educator, you should press the issue. Being able to find information and articulate ideas is the cornerstone of an education. ;)

    All the best,
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    Thanks for the advice! ;)
     

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