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Common/Repeated Problems on 599?

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  1. Mor

    Mor Karting

    Oct 14, 2017
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    Today received an info about instrument cluster from Autotronics in UK. The main board fault. Repair costs 1300 GPB. Sometimes I don’t understand this car. No such a problem with my Porsches for many times.


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  2. jfm_cdm

    jfm_cdm Rookie

    May 18, 2013
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    Mine is a 2007. I purchased it in 2013 and am the second owner. Car has about 19K miles on it. Nothing much until this year and it's been an expensive one:
    Replace L/R wheel bearing and tie rods
    Leaking valve covers, so new valve cover gaskets.
    Have had radiator hoses go on it twice. So now in shop replacing all the hoses. I guess after 10 years, the rubber goes. Should have replaced all of them when the first one went.
    Also in the last year, my rubber buttons have started going sticky. Need to deal with those at some point.

    Jim
     
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  3. Da Butcher

    Da Butcher Karting

    Jan 9, 2018
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    Regarding the TFT display of Ferrari 599 and other models losing clarity due to electronic failure, this problem can happen but there is a source in Costa Mesa CA who can refurbish it for less than $2k; much less than cost of full replacement for $12k out of warranty.

    BTW, this same TFT problem has occurred on Porsches too, at least on those models that feature them. The TFT display (motherboard) on my '06 Cayenne Turbo S has been refurbished.
     
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  4. LightGuy

    LightGuy Three Time F1 World Champ
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    You guys are scaring the hell out of me.
    The next car on my list was a 599 or 430 Scud.
    One would assume for 300K+ in its day Ferrari would have had all the bugs figured out especially in the later models.
    My Porsche GT2 has been almost idiot proof.
     
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  5. Da Butcher

    Da Butcher Karting

    Jan 9, 2018
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    David,

    This TFT display problem does not occur on every 599 as far as I’ve heard. It’s a problem that may crop up with early (mid 2000’s) TFT displays featured even in Porsche’s; like I said my ‘06 Cayenne Turbo S suffered from it and according to my Porsche Service advisor, other higher end models including 911 Turbos and Panameras have similar TFT issues.

    All I’m saying in my earlier post is that if it does occur on an out-of-warranty car, a less expensive (90% less) aftermarket fix is available.

    BTW, even now I’ve got a 599, I still like a Scuderia. As a former aerospace Design Engineer and artist, I believe the Scud is the most beautiful modern Ferrari sports
    car design. A friend owned an all white and black and it was simply marvelous back in ‘08. He eventually sold it and it went to Floyd Mayweather.

    The 599 is the most classically beautiful and voluptuous modern Ferrari GT by Carosseria Pininfarina. I’m not too enamored with the recent Ferraris designed under Flavio Manzoni’s lead. The new Portofino’s front looks too much like a Camaro’s!
     
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  6. Kevin Borley

    Kevin Borley Rookie

    Oct 19, 2017
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    Hi

    Try a company called Cluster Repairs UK Ltd (http://www.clusterrepairsuk.co.uk/contact) They repair Ferrari display but I also spoke to them recently as I had an alarm sensor failure in the interior roof module and they were willing to look at that as well and estimated a cost of ~£150 to repair. Ferrari wanted £900!! for a new part.
     
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  7. Edgemontvillage

    Nov 19, 2008
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    Lloyd
    I've read references to "a source in Costa Mesa CA" who can repair the TFT display however what is the name of the shop? Also - does anyone have instructions on how to correctly remove the instrument cluster? Thanks.
     
  8. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    #59 greyboxer, Jun 19, 2018
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  9. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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  10. Da Butcher

    Da Butcher Karting

    Jan 9, 2018
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    Terry is spot on! FAI in Costa Mesa is well known for repairing screwed up Ferrari TFT instrument clusters.

    A couple of years ago, I spoke to the owner; nice man who loves to fly his T-38 Texan aircraft trainer. He either needs the car to be brought to his shop or if from out of town, have the cluster removed and delivered to FAI.
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Rod repaired my Superamerica cluster and is very nice and professional. His aircraft is a T-28 Trojan, the T-38 Talon is a jet trainer, and the original Texan was a WW-II trainer (AT-6), and the Texan II is the current T-6A turboprop used by the USAF.
     
  12. Da Butcher

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    Thanks again for the clarifications on trainer model designations, Terry. Somehow I was fixated on the "T-38" as Rod's fave aircraft probably because my engineering team prepared a comprehensive refurbishment proposal to the USAF a few months before I retired over two years ago. Even Rod had to correct me when we last spoke and you're correct; Rod's an 'old school gentleman'.
     
  13. F3RN4ND0

    F3RN4ND0 Karting

    Nov 16, 2015
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    Thanks Kevin.
    Very useful info.
    I may have to call them. My 599 TFT display just started to blink this morning..

    For the records, 2009 and 40k km.
     
  14. Ron328

    Ron328 F1 Rookie
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    I am surprised nobody has mentioned leaking shocks that has no fix.
     
  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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  16. Da Butcher

    Da Butcher Karting

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    Leaky magnetorheological shocks are actually sourced from Delphi since GM who owns the patent for this innovative design which was first used on Cadillac models in the early 2000’s.


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  17. Ron328

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    Can be replaced but it is just a matter of time it will eventually leak. :(
     
  18. Mor

    Mor Karting

    Oct 14, 2017
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    There can be no leakge but internal damage of shocks. Today one of mine shocks is out without any drop of oil.


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  19. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    Dumb question, can you drive the car while the cluster is being repaired, if the leads are protected from shorting??!!!
     
  20. F3RN4ND0

    F3RN4ND0 Karting

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    Nope.
    You can't. Essencial piece. She will not start.
     
  21. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    Thought so!! SQOD
     
  22. brogenville

    brogenville Formula 3
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    Not a dumb question at all. On a lot of cars the gauge cluster performs immobiliser functions, so the car wouldn’t start. On these cars, the immobiliser is in the body ecu, so my guess is that would word. Be interesting to try. Worst thing that can happen is the car doesn’t start.


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  23. F3RN4ND0

    F3RN4ND0 Karting

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    Not a dump question at all, I agree.
    I made it to myself too when I sent the cluster to UK ;)
     
  24. George Vosburgh

    George Vosburgh F1 Rookie
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    Good question, now I know!
     

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