Tesla is really not fast at all...(really fast)

$86,090 msrp.

 

I'm just answering your question lol.

This thread could easily be an Apple watch vs Rolex debate.

"My watch is more accurate!"
"Mine is almost as close, but has the mechanical feel with the sweeping second hand!"

I think they both are similar but really can't be compared. It's something people get or don't (both sides, not saying one is better than the other).

 

I can afford a sport bike for speed, but think these are cooler

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/2013-drag-week-worlds-fastest-street-cars/

 

Not at all offended Sid! I'll never part with my Neanderthal 308 .

 

They don't make very many.

R35 GTR 0-60 2.8 (official time), same as P90d and same price. But I appreciate the fact that R35 is a 2 door. Also uses just over half the power to get that acceleration.

 

Man, these discussions remind me of arguments against digital cameras in the mid-nineties, flat panel TVs in the early '00s, and LED lights a few years ago. Electric cars are obviously a larger leap than a household object, so expect it to take a little longer to be sorted and widely accepted.

Remember Fox Photo huts? Remember phone booths? Remember service stations? Expect the same of gas stations.

 

Were you not around in 1910?

 

What does the Mexican Revolution have to do with any of this? Granted, Mexico City has horrible pollution that might benefit from electric cars...

 

Thats the only thing that was happening in 1910?

Electric cars were not a big deal?

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You ought to pick one up. Be modern. Very "Aristocratic"

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Remember horses? Don't see any on the streets anymore, but there are still plenty of people (young and old) around that love them with a passion similar to the passion that we have for special ICE-powered cars. No doubt that the ICE will be replaced by EVs as the widely accepted mode of "transportation."

Digital cameras? Just a tool to record images - a good photograph is still a good photograph, or not, regardless of its origins on film or with pixels.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Remember the robber barons of the Gilded Age? Who do you think put the kibosh on electric transit?

 

Nice try. Thank goodness for Google, huh.

 

Not google, just dredging the caverns of my own Pre-Internet memory. Let’s hear it for western education!

 

Speaking of education, if you want to learn something about frying, head over to the fine dining subforum as I am about to deep-fry the crap out of a bunch of fun foods.

 

0-60 times are so yawn.
60-160 times define what fast really is.

Electronic launch control and AWD takes fun OUT of the driving experience.

Tesla is a one trick pony with poor craftsmanship but no doubt they are making electric mainstream.

All those cars on the OP's list are slow from a 0-to-whatever number you want to name.

 

here is another point to ponder.

the math for recharging a tesla works out to roughly a cost of 7 cts per mile - your results may vary depending on where you live, time of day to charge, etc.
the math for fueling a honda civic comes out to roughly 7 cts per mile - your results may vary depending on gas costs near you etc.
or, if you think the tesla should not be compared to an economy japanese car coz it costs and is so much better then,
the math for fueling an e350 mercedes sedan to roughly 12cts per mile. over the first 100k miles, this comes to an extra $5k cost vs the tesla.

although i have said that i think we have turned the corner on EV's, i also said that mass adoption would be affected by gas prices.....

i still think hybrid is the best way to go for all kinds of reasons.
but the basic math still doesnt make the tesla a slam dunk decision from an economic standpoint.

 

The problem with EVs on the track is the rapid discharge (lots of heat) required to put the power down and all that weight is an issue not just for acceleration but also braking and handling and wear and tear on all the associated parts. But the thing to remember is we are at the beginning of the adoption of EVs. I think it will get better and fairly quickly too. Racing like Formula E will see to that.

I like the analogy to watches. If you replaced the drive train in my daily car with electric I dont think it would bother me at all. But I'd sorely miss it in a Ferrari.

 

You might want to get that checked out by a mechanic.

 

Was thinking that I might pick up a Tesla when the company fails for possible future collector reasons. There seems to be enough younger people that are fanatical about the car which will probably translate to romanticizing buyers who will eventually be able to afford the car in the future.