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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Ab-so-****ing-lutely!
     
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  2. BMWairhead

    BMWairhead Formula 3

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    I mostly agree, but would prioritize in this order:

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    2...is a distant fourth for me


    I like the approach that Pirelli is taking for next year: shift the whole range a notch softer...introduce a new compound at the soft end of the spectrum...and replace the hard with the super hard as a hedge in case the teams find more performance than expected. They've even suggested that the three compounds for each race will not necessarily be one step apart. It opens a lot of doors strategically if the teams had to choose from a wider range of performance (e.g., ultra soft, soft, and hard).
     
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  3. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    Todt is good for about one really stupid idea per week these days.
     
  4. Mitch Alsup

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    Consider for a moment that the engine dominating WEC for the last decade has been a Diesel.
     
  5. subirg

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    Thats a depressingly good point..!
     
  6. 375+

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    I would like to know what Todt's vision is for F1, has he articulated one? His decisions are wildly escalating costs, decreasing competition and killing the fan base. Is he in the pocket of the manufacturers or does he think that ICE is doomed to an early death, just treading water for a few years until Formula E becomes Formula 1? I hate what is happening to this sport which I have followed passionately for decades.
     
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  7. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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    I think that's already happened...
     
  8. Etcetera

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    It's over for F1. Todt elected for four more years.
     
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  9. SimCity3

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    Todt is a ****. If Chase Carey had some balls he would ditch the FIA and create his own Governing Body. Very easy to do.
     
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  10. Bas

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    Exactly. What they need to have is a Formula Future and F1, and let them be completely stand alone. Make F1 about being a proper spectacle, the best drivers and great cars, pure entertainment. That's where the real money is for teams, and obviously the highest entertainment factor for fans. Will this mean some manufacturers leave? I'm sure, yeah, so a certain degree...But F1 has done fine with very few manufacturers (I'd argue that the best years where with the fewest manufacturers). There is no reason that F1 should be manufacturers only. To me they add very little to the sport.
     
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  11. 375+

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    +1 completely agree
     
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  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I agree. Manufacturers(along with the FIA) enter F1, only if it suits their interests, then stay and spend tons of money. Once it does'nt suit their interests, they walk away. To some extent/degree/frequency, they are the whores of F1.
     
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  13. Bas

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    Yep.

    Whereas the garagistes stay, as it's their bread and butter.
     
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  14. martinperry

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    They already tried this in the early nineties when dear old Jean was running Peugeot Sport - it let them win Le Mans and then they put the engine into the McLaren MP4/9
    If I remember it correctly, the cost escalation in the Le Mans cars drove most of the works teams out, and was effectively the death of Group C - the greatest (IMHO ) era of any motorsport category.
    Not a great Idea, and he really should know better.
     
  15. 375+

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    I miss the era of the garagistes.
     
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  16. tervuren

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    You should look at the current costs of Le Mans vs F1. Triple digit millions for Le Mans Prototypes these days.

    A move like this could save costs for both series.
     

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