I went in for a 5k major, it cost XXXX more and here's what happened"

If this is true, (and I believe it is) then a $3500 belt swap at a shop that charges $120/hr. makes sense. But no shop (in America) will ever admit that it takes only 10 hours for a pro to remove and replace the engine.

 

Totally understand; i am just telling you can change the belts this way; thats it
Not trying to offend all the aspiring mechanics out there


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Fastest way off a Ferris wheel is to jump.

 

Yeah I am not sure. I really need an SD tool. But I am going to have the dealer go through it this time. I want everything checked out.

Yes, I will. This car probably has a lot of differed maintenance. This $15k is the major service and the rest of the problems. I will post it up here when I do. My car isn't due in until the second week of January.

See that is what I can't figure out. Everything is expensive and everything wants to kill you. Surely the weather is just as nice in Hawaii?

 

Yes, you can change belts that way. I talked to Roselli about that and I don't think he is super proud of that job. I just spent two weeks going over all the deferred maintenance on a car that got the belt through the gas tank job. Yes, you can do the belt that way, but that is not a service.

 

Agreed! Roselli is amazing; he only does it if people are a bit tight on ressources. Sometimes our beloved ferraris come second to life events and some money needs saving


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Sure they will. But that's not the complete job.

 

Please review your prior post when you suggested "most" use the gas tank removal. It's 99% false.

 

Ok Professor


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Just to dig this wabbit hole a little deeper....

This is on my 348.

When I had my last service done I was talking to the mechanic about majors/cambelts, and he said they now recommend on some cars that they do the belts by dropping the tank. His argument was that a) its cheaper and b) it disturbs less on the car. Whilst I can get the first argument, I don't get the second cause if it doesn't work when its disturbed, then it will eventually break, wont it? He did say that they were more than happy to drop the engine if the customer wished and other work on the engine required it.

The mechanic is a very well respected indie over here in the Uk.

That said, whilst a major/cambelt on mine isn't due for another 1-2 years, I'm not sure I'll go back, although you never hear a bad word about these guys.

I will be having mine dropped as that's the right way to do it, it has a couple of oil leaks that will need addressing and I want the remainder of the coolant hoses swapped out for silicon (I've already done the ones to the radiators), and no we don't pay £1k for a hose kit over here either, maybe £200 all in, with your choice of colour!

Back on topic:
Last receipt of an engine out cambelt and annual in 2016 by an indie (so no valve check) was £1.9k. Included hill tensioner bearings. Labour for the engine out and cam belts was 15 hours (annual and checks was separate).

I had annual, plugs, fuel filters and gearbox oil last year at an indie £800.

(I think you guys in the US pay less for your cars, but get clobbered on the servicing; whilst the poor sods in Aus just get clobbered on tax for luxury items...oh and don't forget the spiders!!!)

 

Are you the same person recommending that having sex with your clothes gets you the same results as without?

 

Wow u guys are just so subtle and funny, no wonder u end up with a president like trump ...smh


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And you are very sharp with your observations, since I live in Canada....

 

Just stick to the thread...smh


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Says the guy who derailed it....

 

I beg u pardon but i was talking about a way to remove belt without engine out and u come in here with ur incredible sense of humor. Go on pistons head please or provide value to the thread.


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I've been told that the slightest variation in cam timing is quite important and excessive heat is a byproduct of cars not being timed properly. I'm guessing the people who would do a belt service by removing the gas tank are the same one's disconnecting the thermocouples to avoid a CEL/slow down light. Who needs those anyway? Premature wear on rubber components due to excessive heart, melted valves, melted cats, maybe even a melted car if it spontaneously combusts...but hey, you saved some money on the major!

Half ass should not be the standard for Ferrari, nor should saving money.

 

Is that what the OP is asking when he started this thread? I see that you passed reading comprehension with ease

 

Let it go man. U are lowering this thread with your attacks. Please let us know how you would service your 355 instead. Enlight this thread.


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Regarding the thermocouplers though... They are known to be faulty and i could see why some have disconnected them in the past. Not sure about the mondial but in the TR they are a catastrophe and that buzzing sound is horrible


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Boooo!!

Well it's okay I'm all out of popcorn anyway.

 

I serviced my 348 myself with a few colleagues.

We discovered that nothing extra was needed. Just the typical components that come in the 348 Major kit (from Ricambi)