488 GTO ?

1) Surely will be epic, but it cannot leave in the dust the V12 family as if it is the halo car of the Ferrari range; in this view, it cannot do like mecca that declares 720 PS while the real number for the 720S is 770-780 PS, similar to the Senna. I think Ferrari, concerning v8 cars care less about power and more about driving feeling since 2013. Personally, I think that for the track laps fanatics, the major factor for this 488 VS will be the tyres, preferably with Trofeo R or custom Sport Cup like the GT2RS option, for all the others, we will see.

2) They said delayed? Actually the cycle it's similar to the 430-430 scuderia elapsed time, 2004-2007. I think 458 speciale was late in comparison, 2009-2013. I think Ferrari has returned to shorter cycles since Mecca rush for iphone supercars every 6 months.
Though, if the real plan was to release the VS earlier and they delayed due to the competition raising the bar, well, that's all good )

 

Ingegnere,

Very nice drawing. As Always we know that you have some "extra" information . I know it's not the right model discussion but there were mules from the Portofino. Not much, but a few.

 

If the 488 replacement will remain aluminium I wonder how they will save weight taking into account the hybrid system

 

Again, NO hybrid system!

 

I'm afraid that's a given on the successor and, stand back for the abuse, possibly the 'GTO', so why not. Hardly made a mess of the LF?

 

Simple, no space

 

And they need it to work after 5 days of not being on a charger, which by the way happens to be the size of vacuum cleaner,, like in the LaF. For a LaF that's fine since they spend most of their time preening themselves in a garage, but not for a 488.

Oh, and in a LaF if the system does go flat, that would be 60k euros please. 4 batteries = 1 488GTO

 

why so expensive? most likely ferrari uses the same battery cells as tesla, no?

 

I don't mean to be facetious but it's the same reason why a Ferrari carbon fibre cup holder for the F12 was a $2300 option.

As long as there are mugs willing to pay the $$$s they will continue to, well, mug them. That is the business model.

But, I do agree with you - I don't think the battery is made from unobtanium.

 

We are all waiting for the 488 GTO to be revealed and the wait is killing us all

so.............to keep thing interesting, here is something to chew on......

The 488 GTB won the Motor Trend driver car of 2017. It was only 1 second off of the McLaren P1's time at Laguna Seca. Obviously Laguna Seca doesn't have the longest straights(although hot shot Randy Pobst comment the Twin Turbo power of the 488 is endless). So I ask you all....

......Am I really so crazy with my opinion that the 488 GTO will be faster then the LaFerrari?? Maybe not in a drag race but I'll be on any Circuit or even just Fiorano it will be faster.

As Ive said before. My only two predicts are that it will in fact be called the 488 GTO and that it will be faster then the LaFerrari. Can't wait to see how my predictions pan out

 

:::))))

 

You may be right, though honestly the performance margins with cars at this level reach a point of ridiculous to me. For example, I’m a very proud owner of my 488 GTB but it really doesn’t have much to do with the power. Obviously I love that it has enormous capabilities however, I frankly take that for granted. I make the natural assumption that it is remarkable. What matters most to me is it’s design, the visceral impact it gives me and being part of the Ferrari heritage. I’m very excited to see if the 488 GTO inspires me enough to want to order one. The wait is half the fun.

 

That would be down to what Ferrari's marketing department wants you to hear. For example, according to some of those in the know, the 812 is already as quick or quicker than the tdf because of the lower drag more than offsets the extra weight in some circuits in addition to better 4ws and other chassis control electronics However, the marketing blurb says 0.5 second slower, because that suits them.

I imagine they wouldn't want to unseat Emperor LaFerrari given the next hypercar is a long way away

Also, 488 laptime on Fiorano is 1:23. Laf is 1:19.7. So they need to make another 3.5s. The scuderia and speciale are about 1.5-2s faster than the base cars. So 3.5 seconds is a big ask.

 

For your intended use, it doesn't sound like you need an engine in the car. If you are selling, please let me know. I have an idea for a nice glass coffee table

 

488corsa

 

The 430 Scuderia could match the Ferrari Enzo........will history repeat it self......I think so, maybe more

 

True, but that's because the gap between the base E430 and Enzo was only 2 seconds on Fiorano. I think LaF was a huge performance leap, and the base 488 is starting 3.5 seconds behind. That would need a radical increase in power for instance. The Scuderia had a much faster gearbox than the Enzo which would have accounted for the smaller gap, but with LaF, there's less room to go.

I'd love nothing more than to see this car outperform a LaF. I am doubtful but fingers crossed.

 

I tend to agree... unless if there is a big surprise like drastic carbon fiber use or a big boost in HP. The big boost in HP is much more likely since we are talking turbo V8 engine there is still plenty of room to increase boost and it's the cheepest way to go.

 

That's a total given, and if they cannot sort that out in the 5 years since the LF was designed, they have some serious problems.

 

No, the LF battery cells are made by Samsung but are inside specially made cases by Ferrari. It's a tricky set up of four CF cases and some hundreds of cells packed together. It's a lot more complicated than it sounds and it's pure F1 stuff!!! Anyway, a LF is a LF and a 488 VS is nowhere close to it.

 

0 out of 2. Can't get worse than that!

 

Made me chuckle! And I agree.

 

LOL!
All my best to you Tim! Happy New Year!

 

And a Happy New Year to you too!

 

You seem to be confusing your opinions for facts.

While I also think both are unlikely, we don't know either for a fact. Unless of course you are Sweater himself masquerading here as know-it-all F-chatter