Sublime, Suprema, Superba, Sportiva, Stellare. But as the McLaren did the Senna, Ferrari could do the 488 Gilles Villeneuve, or GV
How about 488 Scuderia Corsa or 488SC? The other option is 488 Scuderia Speciale or 488SS? And finally 488 Corsa Speciale or 488CS? Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Nonsure about that. If a production run of 4000 is planned, even Ferrari would struggle to sell out by Geneva...
Porsche with a far larger clientele only sold approximately 5000-6000 991.1 GT3RS's and at way less $'s per car. 4000 units is a fair number IMO
In the same topic talking about the same car, you heard people complaining not getting it and people saying ferrari wont sell all the cars..
Obviously to clear 4000 cars at launch is feasible at some price point, but I'd be amazed if they can do it the price point of €300k + options which more than 2x 911 gr3 RS. If they did, Marchionne will double production next week
That's because apart from the slides everything since Thursday has been second or third hand interpretations of what may or may not have been said to the dealers who if truth be told are never renowned for their ability to convey information accurately
I said it's their goal. Whether they achieve it remains to be seen. But from a conversation this weekend I wouldn't bet against it. The car will be a powerful statement from Ferrari about its most valuable and essential brand asset - Ferrari's immense motor-racing heritage. Hardcore. Demand for this car is already sky-high, partly from confusion about its production run and very unlikely (and in my opinion unnecessary) GTO naming. Once details are revealed (via its virtual launch) I expect demand to go into orbit. There are alternatives on the market, some cheaper but when Ferrari nails its product, no one can touch its brand power.
Let's say "special thanks to McLaren"! With the 720S and the Senna they have set the expectations for the "GTO" so high that any interested party assumes that this car will outperform everything on this earth, Ferrari "strikes back"! For the order books, a good buyer sentiment. Once again the perfect timing of Ferrari.
how many speciale were made? 4000 was said in here for GTO, Aperta and maybe LE also. so maybe around 2500 for the "GTO". 2000 GT2RS were sold before the car was announced. P cleaning ladys (and your dealer) will tell you they could sell 4times the numbers. but also clearly based on expected value. if you ask dealers back in the days were it was normal to lose 20% of MSRP in the first year - demand would be fine with the 2000 units. anyhow this is the time were we are living in. better cars instead krypto... 2500 GTO´s are for sure sold out - already a couple of month ago. as soon pictures will arrive - they could sell 5000 of those. including the denied GT2RS buyers (as i´m one) this number would double again. No doubts from my side that F is able to sell out everything. doesn´t matter the production numbers. When we will be able to configurate? After 14.Februar (dealer video party) or on 08.March (Geneva)? When will start production?
Assuming that it will be built during max 2 years I guess max 2000, as they have to continue the 488 GTB and spider production in parallel... Hopefully less, so the value of mine will increase Sent from my HTC U11 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
They can make such a claim but I think at best it will mean they have matched the number of interested people with the expected production number. Putting a deposit for a car expected to arrive 2 years from now is one thing, signing a binding contract (which would be a real sale) in the same conditions is another thing. If they ask all interested people to confirm their orders immediately, they may have people declining, which is not in their interest, because they'll have then to turn to people they initially told would not get one - not a good position to be in, even if eventually they'd sell all cars anyway. Better for them IMHO is to only ask for confirmation the people at the top of their list, keep others on the list without confirmation, and initially (let's say during about one year) tell new people asking that it's sold out. Which it is not, because some people on the list without confirmation will change interest after one year (becaus new cars unveiled or whatever), which will free possibilities for new customers.
Well said, and I am absolutely sure every UK dealer has sold their allocation already. The volumes may seem high and are not a LE but it still means only 200 to 230 cars for UK , and that is easy to sell.
to sure about configuration begin but production should start after the summer break. ferrari will produce as many as they can (sell) in the two years production window. no one (at least in central europe where things are apparently different to overseas, including the UK) should worry to be left out. btw, my dealer told me yesterday, that waiting time for the 812 super fast is about 2-3 years, he said he could most likely get me the 488GTB successor earlier::))
Ferrari doesn't need anything this complicated. Ferrari (and its dealers) have extensive knowledge on their mature and emerging customers. They track a host of data-points related to history and potential. I'll eat my hat if Ferrari doesn't achieve all its targets.
They will sell as many cars as they want and claim whatever they want, but I find hard to believe a 4000 units production will be actually sold out immediately. When the 488 GTB was introduced there were claims of 4-year waiting lists on some markets, 3 years later one can get a new 488 in less than one year anywhere in the world. Just shows these waiting lists were virtual to some extent (they were probably filled up with real people, but the "long term contracts" were not binding). The 812 is also virtually sold out now - some dealers refusing orders - but I bet two years from now one will be able to order one.
Agreed! How many of folks are willing to purchase sight unseen etc. Am curious how much are options vs standard on the 488 GTO.
As you correctly say, they have this down to a fine art and are the true masters of LE and even non LE marketing. From everything one hears about the point system, it is a sophisticated analytical tool and I am sure they consider this when pondering production runs of cars such as this. I have not a doubt in my mind they will hit their sales goal on this car and suspect they are secretly delighted that this leak took place. It just ramps up the mystique and excitement, free PR, at which, as I said, they are the masters.
How do you guys think the 488VS will affect 812 - Don't get me wrong the 812 will still sell out BIG But I can't help but think since it won't be the fastest Ferrari around So the premium over list will shrink Any Thoughts out there
