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Changing Gearbox Bushing

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  1. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

    Oct 24, 2015
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    :) Soooo - Since I like DIY I thought I might share an easy "to do yourself" if you like tinkering...

    I started by buying a set of bushing tools (which I know I will use for the ball joints as well), and a new gearbox bushing from (in my case), Superformance.
    Looks like this:
     

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  2. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Since I already have removed the air filter housing and gearbox support frame I gained easy access to the bushing.
    It was quite easy to push out the old one (I sprayed a little penetrating oil to ease things up about 10min prior to cranking).
     

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  3. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    One can clearly see the wear in the old one - it was sagging and it had a little too much play...
     

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  4. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Clean and make sure there's no debris that may damage the aluminium prior assembly of new bushing.
    And after that just push the new one in.
     

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  5. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    And finally after about 0,5h of work (not counting the disassembly of airfilter housing and gearbox support frame), you're finished.
    I noted the difference in width between new and old bushing and suspect that it may have been changed at some point.
    Could it be that the old one is from a 430?
     

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  6. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Moneywise, I would say this saves you about 1000$ compared to workshop at AD.
    If money is no issue to you, then working on your own precious might be...

    One learns a lot about these cars doing a bit of tinkering on you own.

    And I find that quite rewarding in itself...
     
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  7. ideloera

    ideloera Formula Junior

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    Thanks for the write up, Mickster.

    Where did you buy the bushing removal tool kit?
     
  8. Mickster

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  9. cgfen

    cgfen Formula Junior

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    vista ca
    smart man!
    share other DIY as you go along please
     
  10. ideloera

    ideloera Formula Junior

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    After removing the gearbox support frame, did you have to support the gearbox with a transmission jack?
     
  11. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Of course a jack will be great, but actually - the WM says one can rest the gearbox on the frame underneith the gearbox.
    I just put a rubber pad in between so that the black paint wouldn't get damaged.
     
  12. SoCalDan

    SoCalDan Rookie

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    Thanks for posting. Great write up and good to know about the tool kit.
     
  13. redcarz

    redcarz Rookie

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  14. redcarz

    redcarz Rookie

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    what was happening to make you change the bushing ? were you getting a loud whirring type noise at highway speeds that sounded like a wheel bearing? thanks
     
  15. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Nope! I just noticed that the exhaust pipes was sagging a bit.

    I've read about others having problems with noices (clunking and so on), when shifting gear. So I guess one can experience different issues when the bushing is shot.

    Since the bushing was shot I figured that the motor pads might have taken a beat due to the extra stress and play the shot bushing rendered in.
    And sure enough! They too was shot.
    They actually fell apart in my hands (literally).

    I suspect a lot of 360 and 430 drivers out there drive around with bad bushings and motor pads.
    Especially the motor pads are hard to examine without taking them out of the mount...
     
  16. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Pics of pad - fell apart in my hands...
     

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  17. redcarz

    redcarz Rookie

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    oh wow, thanks for the info and the pics, its appreciated,,,,,
     
  18. CarAholic

    CarAholic Formula Junior

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    Did you notice any difference after replacing your trans bushings?
     
  19. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Here's a funny fact; I've not driven the car yet as it's more or less in pieces still.
    I expect there to be no "clunk" sound/feeling when shifting gears. Furthermore; the exhaust tips ought to sag no more.
     
  20. whatheheck

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    Great info! Thanks for sharing!

    What did you replace your engine mounts / motor pads with?

    Dan
     
  21. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    I used original parts. I haven’t heard of any superior items from any other manufacturer (i.e. HE or equivalent).
    But I do think the design of the mounts / pads are bad and could benefit from a redesign.
     
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  22. whatheheck

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    Great info!

    Thanks again for sharing.

    Dan
     
  23. AllardK3

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    FYI I recently replaced my trans bushing with the updated F430 part from superformance in the UK. Great price and quality. Part fit well and the performance is great. The 430 part is just a little stiffer than original making the power train feel a little more “solid” during shifts and when letting the clutch out from a stop.
     
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  24. Mickster

    Mickster Formula Junior

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    Thanks’ for the tip. I’ll go for it the next time.
     
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  25. Ernieinky

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    Mickster, just found your post, I’m interested in getting the bushing set you bought, what set exactly did you buy and from what website? Thanks. Ernie
     

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