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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #16051 joe sackey, Jan 24, 2018
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    #16053 miurasv, Jan 24, 2018
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    Consigned 30.11.68. Do you mean converted from a P400 (or P400S?) to SVJ and then to SVR?
     
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  5. joe sackey

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    #16055 joe sackey, Jan 25, 2018
    Yes, I mean P400 > SVJ > SVR.

    I never knew about the SVJ part.
     
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    #16056 miurasv, Jan 25, 2018
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    Where did this info come from, Joe. The story previously was that the car was converted from its original form to SVR? Does the plate MI U10542 identify it as 3781?
     
  7. joe sackey

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    #16057 joe sackey, Jan 25, 2018
    This is from the car's owner Heinz Steber himself, he owned it as an SVJ (those are his images), then he took it back to the factory circa 1975 and convinced Remo Vecchi to make it an SVR.
     
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    #16058 miurasv, Jan 25, 2018
    Thanks, Joe. I wonder if he thought he was going to be getting a Jota 5084 replica when he got the car originally converted to SVJ?
     
  9. joe sackey

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    #16059 joe sackey, Jan 25, 2018
    Not sure, that said he was very hands-on with the SVR project.
     
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    #16064 ClaxNZ, Feb 2, 2018
    I don’t think so as they are in London (and have been for some time).


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  15. Lel

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    #16065 Lel, Feb 2, 2018

    I still think so. They even got the same chassis number; #3967 and #4515!
     
  16. bb4635

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    #16066 bb4635, Feb 2, 2018
    Lel is correct. These 2 Miura are both ex. Adam carolla cars (#3967 and #4515) . He replaced them by a genuine SV he bought at RM Auction Arizona in Jan 2016 (#4912)
     
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    #16067 joe sackey, Feb 2, 2018
    So many Miura ownership lessons to be learned here.
     
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    #16069 montpellier, Feb 3, 2018
    Like what ?
     
  20. joe sackey

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    #16070 joe sackey, Feb 3, 2018
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    One good lesson learned by a few is, if you like the looks and specification of an SV, and think you'd like to own one, buy a genuine SV, rather than try and modify an earlier variant to look like one. Nobody will be convinced the converted car is an SV, and you'll tire of answering the obvious questions "is it a real SV?" followed immediately by "why did you convert the P400?" (or P400S). IMO a Miura that has been converted to an SV is worth even less than the car it was converted from because of the cost to put it back. This SV-lookalike story never ends well, there's just no upshot, and ultimately the ownership experience is not enjoyed long-term.

    Another lesson learned now that the cars have become as valuable as they are, is, if you are going to go to the not inconsiderable expense of restoring a Miura, consider restoring it to original livery and specification. This'll result in much more ownership satisfaction, it'll be a nod of respect towards the car's original artisans, and it'll be worth more, the latter an indisputable fact.

    One more lesson learned is, the earlier variants, the P400 and P400S, are very special iterations of the Miura in their own right, and they are becoming very sought after and appreciated for what they are in recent times. Giampaolo Dallara recently purchased and restored a fabulous P400, to underscore this point.
     
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    #16072 geno berns, Feb 3, 2018
    Joe is 100% right. Each of the 3 varients are special in their own way and with so few Miuras made it's not a car that should be modified like one would do by making a clone Shelby Mustang. Respect the original design.
     
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