Or maybe that is precisely why they would do it?! (Just a thought, not a prediction...)
It’s logical and it’s happening and it will be so fast we will wonder what all the fuss on this thread was about.
488 replacement this early??? I think not before Geneva 2020, maybe Frankfurt 2019?? But 488 VS Aperta and 488 LE come before it....did a dealer tell this to you? This is a big bang scoop
It will be interesting to discover how much power they would have to obtain from electric motors to recover the power loss passing from a v8 3.9 to a v6 3.0
Seems strange to me considering the reliability concerns that were expressed about pushing the V6 too much. So, I'll believe it when I see it.
Another mystery is the eventual adoption of 4ws system foe 488 VS or 488 successor. Porsche demonstrated that is really helpful at the Ring
650 in total? Or 650 from the V6 alone? By the way, Amedeo Felisa once said "Over time we can reduce emissions by downsizing the displacement. There is probably a V6 in our future” and “You wouldn’t do a bigger one [car] with a V6”. So did they change their plans? Because a V6 for a smaller car makes plenty of sense, ditching the new TT V8 not so much in my opinion. Edit #1 Even so, this would leave room for a V-6 mid-engined car to undercut the 488. We spoke in more detail to a Ferrari engineer, who declined to be named, about the V-6 and the car it would go into. He says the car is in pre-development (mule cars have been spotted near the Ferrari HQ in cut-down 488 bodywork). But it is not yet definitely in the production development phase, our source says. He said that the target for the engine is an astonishing 200 horsepower per liter. But that places huge stresses on the engine components and they are still working on the right materials to do this. The engine is derived from the 488’s V-8, but he said it will require some clever new solutions because that engine has a flat-plane crank for better breathing, and that sets up bad vibrations in a V-6. From Top Gear and MotorTrend articles about the new Dino project.
650 from v6 alone, as in the Ford GT, can be done a 3.5 or 3.0, 200 hp per liter is doable with a decent reliability in 2020
I can see them going to exclusive 488VS production (No GTB's) And then in 2019 introducing V6 TT Dino because that would not interfere with a 730hp V8. It's all speculation on my part
How about the v8 3.9 engine?? Will it remain only for Lusso and Portofino/Cali GT or completely abandoned in favour of V6 on all the range models? It's a pity since it is a fairly new and young engine.
Yes, that would make sense, Surely I prefer a Dino v6 and a 498 with v8 hybrid than a 498 with v6 hybrid...f1 marketing maybe obliges to have a v6 3.2 obtained doubling the f1 engine...but I'm really fond of the new v8 tt generation, really sad if they make it die after only one model generation...
Just from the that last sentence of the bolded part, this sounds like pure uninformed speculation from an unkowlegable hack. What does the fact that a V8 has a flat crank (versus a cross-plane one) have do with the crank of a V6 derived from this? The V6 will need a bespoke, split-pin crank in any case to ensure even firing and will certainly not be a 180 degree crank. In any case, if Ferrari are going to make a V6, they probably won't compromise it by making it 90 degrees. They'll hopefully make it a 60 degree design or half of a V12.
Ferrari V12 are 65°, Ferrari V6 on Giulia QV derived from V8 488 is 90°, they will probably update that engine to have 600 PS, or use a 3.2 / 3.5 displacement.
Since it was never mentioned in the leaked slides, I'm afraid there is no RWS on the 488 VS - that's the (only) disappointment; I experienced how brilliant it is on a GT3... If it's not the 488 VS, it would be because they found it too difficult (?) to adapt on the existing architecture (although Porsche managed to introduce it to the 911...); but I suspect they'll design the next platform to accommodate it.
Yes, me too. Hopes it comes with the 498, should be really v6 tt with 4wd electric on front tyres, 4WS would help a lot in bends on both track and road.
So just to add some ideas. There is some speculation that the 488 GTB will end production this year. The real 488 successor will presumably not enter the market before 2020. Considering the hint Sergio Marchionne gave recently, there is a group of potential customers who don’t want a car with 800+ hp and haven’t been addressed within the last 15 years. He also said there is more to see during this year’s Paris Motor show. So could it be possible that Ferrari want to split the 488 line into two separate lines? Meaning that we would see the lower line this year in combination with the 488VS and the other higher positioned line will come as a “further replacement” in minimum 1.5 years.
