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Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

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  1. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

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    Maybe nobody here wants to put enough money on the table to be considered by Williams :D
     
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  2. furoni

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    WEll, i may be an armchair expert but i remenber when i botehred to look at what williams were doing (in the days they won races) and a couldn't believe how stupid their pit stop strategy was most of the times...I mean, damon Hill was not exacly a top notch driver, but the team managed to sabotage the poor guy so often i wondered why they didn't gave me the job...i remenber once at Monaco when he was on pole, had the fastest car and they decided the best strategy was to pit him twice, lolololo i couldn't believe how stupid they could be!! i don't know, perhaps Briatore was the one they asked for advice!!!
     
  3. DF1

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    Brit fan from another website LOL --- "Williams' most experienced F1 driver on this year's grid is an non-talented 19 year old daddy's boy.

    Just when you think F1 can't get more embarrassing."

    Its a money move for a team that cannot bring on large sponsorship. Expertise is not needed to understand the life-blood of F1 - M O N E Y. I see opinion's here that very much mirror F1 insiders and the press. Williams are not a team of progress of late.
     
  4. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I hate this argument. None of us are racing drivers, even the ones that are, Stroll & Sirotkin are still faster...doesn't mean we can't criticize!:rolleyes:

    There are enough here with ''experience'' enough to see what is a good or bad thing for a team. I wouldn't advice Ferrari to hire a Billionaires son as lead aerodynamicist simply because he fancies the job and daddy promises to pay his wages & he's had a semester of maths at Arizona State.
     
  5. TheMayor

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    OOOOOOH Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

    That would mean every sports writer in the world shouldn't write or report.

    But if you want say we should only look at actual people who have run and been involved in F1, you might want to check out Villenueve's opinion of Stroll. :)
     
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  6. 'Both off on tangents. I'll try another way....

    Why doncha's apply for the job of selling the sponsorship for Williams so it can run the business the way you decide it should be run?
     
  7. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Zero interest working for someone else. The only way to truly change the regime there is to run the team, and since Frank Williams isn't my dad I doubt he'll kick his daughter out.

    I understand cash poor teams selling their (or 1) seats to a driver with combination of talent and money, sacrificing some talent for a bigger wallet. It doesn't make sense with Williams. They've got a good car yet 1 of their drivers is out of his depth (no comment on Sirotkin yet from me).
     
  8. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    You do it....since we are not up to your calibre of thinking.
     
  9. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    I'm giving Lance another year, it is now or never.
     
  10. DF1

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  11. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    He needs measurable progress or he has much less credibility if any.
     
  12. maulaf

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  13. Bas

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    Qualifying behind hopeless Honda engined cars, year old Ferrari units and so on when you have the best power unit on board does make it a whole lot easier. Passing 2-4 cars or so on the start alone when you start that far back is pretty easy.
     
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  14. maulaf

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    Whatever. Not even glorious Max Verstappen manages to survive first laps at any rate and he tends to start in pretty high up places where there is much less action and pressure.
     
  15. Bas

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    Verstappen typically qualified behind Vettel/Hamilton, sometimes the other Merc and/or Ferrari. Since there are fewer cars in front of him, it does make it a little harder overtaking many cars. Especially considering the lack of power he had compared to the cars ahead and around him.

    Speaking of Max...here's a masterclass in first lap overtaking. Mind how his better start advantage was immediately negated after being blocked so all overtakes where pretty much done on track, unlike Stroll's typical power launches, taking the under powered cars and then play ''trulli train'' for the next 2 hours

     
  16. furoni

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    The only time Strollet managed to qualify well, he lost places quite rapidly..remenber Monza?
     
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  17. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Who cares? You don’t get points for fast starting...
     
  18. furoni

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    Well, you could..but you'd have to keep the places you gained...not go backwards like the stroller...
     
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  19. 375+

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    Trulli Train?
     
  20. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Trulli was famous for qualifying well but lacking race pace....and normally ended up with a train of cars right behind him and he'd do just enough so they couldn't pass. Trulli Train.

    (the difference is that Stroll isn't a good qualifier)
     
  21. jgonzalesm6

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    yep, he was also known for his defensive driving style which he would hold off quicker drivers, at times for an entire race.
     
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  22. 375+

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    I was never terribly impressed with Jarno and he whined more than a little bit when Alonso was his teammate. He did manage one win(Monaco?)didn't he?
     
  23. jgonzalesm6

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    yup, of all places (2004).
     
  24. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Yeah. He was an enigma...could be blindingly fast on a single lap but almost always slow during the race.
     
  25. rob lay

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    I loved that except negative points on the dive bomb on the Williams. Otherwise it showed perfect balance of control, aggressiveness, and patience.
     
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