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  1. raymondQV

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    #1121160 in its original red and with Koenig running boards.
     
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    I think you mean Max Bobnar's side Extension, they developped to get air for the intercoolers of the 5l Turbo, later they installed them on quite a number of cars.
    https://www.autozeitung.de/lamborghini-countach-turbo-s-supersportwagen-v12--bilder-technische-daten-90897.html

    I quickly counted in my archive, I found 8 QV which got those vents, but no other LP5000s.
     
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    Anyone know which LP500S this is?

    It's a non-metallic dark red or burgundy, I'm not sure where the registration is from, Luxembourg perhaps?

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    No idea whether Willy Koening "designed" his own extensions himself or got them from Bobnar. But the car had on both sides and on the back the name "Koenig Special". I can`t remember any period test of his creations to proof the claimed high speeds or reliability and I always doubted the performance figures he mentioned (1,000 PS/ph etc., etc.). All blah-blah in my opinion. The only useful modification he offered for the Ferrari BBs was a stronger racing clutch.
     
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    Koenig made those running boards and later also sold the fender flares with the vertical slates, but those came from Lambo Rijssen
    http://www.countach.ch/tuning.html

    The horizontal slats had Max done for his second turbo and sold them, Koenig took them over into his program, I never saw one, I know only of a plastic scale model.

    Same with the Sbarro Countach, I have spoken personally with Sbarro on the phone, he denied having ever modified a Countach.
     
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    Perhaps not surprising

    It appears to me that these side-sills-plus-rear-wheelarch items could accept either vertical or horizontal slats.

    Here is another Koenig Specials press image from literature where he makes the same claim of being able to supply Twin Turbo engines for both the 2-valve and 4-valve Countachs.

    No, I have not seen any engine images.

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    Indeed, fun times for the fledgling car-tuner world.

    As we know modifications from that era don't always perform or age particularly well, and we also know that all across the world of collectible classic & sports cars, when the cars start to become both appreciated & valuable, many of the mods are reversed.

    We see this in all makes & models and have seen this with a significant number of Countachs already, and I predict this will trend will continue as the years go by.

    An interesting era where in some cases less was not more.
     
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    What an ugly car! It simply confirms that its VERY hard to "optimise" a masterpiece!
     
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    Yes, from Luxembourg. The owner has/had a Miura in the same colour.
     
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    #24519 joe sackey, Feb 27, 2018
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    In all fairness, some of these modified Countachs are very cool 80s-era deviations and are obviously still special-interest cars for some, but it's also easy to see why purists such as yourself (a previous LP400 owner) feel how you do.

    Just one example of the tide of reversal of modded Countachs would be 1120200, images below in an 80s comparo with a Koenig Boxer, subsequently rescued by Kidston and made an LP400 again.

    Whichever side of the debate one sits on, the Countach is most valuable in it's original pure form, and rescued cars have a certain appeal of their own as they speak to the labor of love required to return them to their original guise.

    Thank you for confirming, beautiful LP500S

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    I forgot to ask, do you know the dark red LP500S's chassis number?

    Also, does anyone know the chassis number of the 1982 Luci Del Bosco LP500S?

    TIA

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    #24521 raymondQV, Feb 27, 2018
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    In this particular case I like the white Lais version best, this car is most likely the one which initiated my countach enthusiasm.
    I can remember the articles in the magazines and had even a sticker with this car and the white horses beside.
    http://www.ferrari-register.nl/sites/default/files/styles/car_colorbox_style/public/car_images/1120200 Lais.jpg?itok=UEwzIfJy

    The LP400 version is just boring.
     
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    Somewhat in agreement I'll make a more diplomatic statement and say the LP400 does not have as much sheer drama as the later cars do, but then again, I appreciate that it's design was meant to be sublime & pure.

    By the time I learned about 1120200 it was by then yellow. The one thing that concerned me about this car in it's modified LP400S guise was the fact that it apparently retained wishbone suspension when it should have had parallel-links to support the wide-wheel Bravos, and this caused it's rear wheels to not be placed centrally within the wheel arch unlike factory LP400S Lowbodys - see pic below. Like most modified Countachs, it bore that home-made amateur feel, and I must confess I was impressed with what Kidston managed to do with it in terms of bringing it back to it's LP400 spec, roof and all.

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    I nearly forgot, Lambocars666 posted this twin-turbocharged Countach carb engine from 1979, that was the early days for Countach turbos

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    Good grief! It sure was a ridiculous fad to buy these cars and mess them up with ugly JUNK!
    We had a white one down near me in FL..i think it was Bartow. It had a stupid body kit.. Ugh
     

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